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[bud]

Newey vs Schuey for so many years, I'm sure the two of them have a healthy respect for each other.

actually it was Newey Vs Byrne for so many years

No it wasn't, Schuey was the deciding factor, not the car. You know this, I'm not biting, put your fishing rod away spud...

ofcourse you think this, you had it preached to you every sunday and im not talking at GP meets.

But if Mike was the deciding factor why did Rory Byrne come to Ferrari? You say Newey is the best designer but truth be told going by the stats Rory Byrne comes out on top in the last 15 years

[McLaren Fan]

Newey vs Schuey for so many years, I'm sure the two of them have a healthy respect for each other.

actually it was Newey Vs Byrne for so many years

No it wasn't, Schuey was the deciding factor, not the car. You know this, I'm not biting, put your fishing rod away spud...

Schumacher was a talented guy, there's no denying that, but without a good car (and one that was tailored to his driving style), he would have won a hell of a lot less. The truth is that in Formula One, with the exception of the odd track or weather conditions, the car is the main factor in who wins titles. Look through Formula One's annals and count how many people had the talent to win many races and championships and didn't and how many people who won race and championships who were not as gifted as those who won less. Schumacher was a good driver and it was just that he drove for a team whose capabilities were up to standard, but without driving a good car, Schumacher would have won a hell of a lot less than he did.

[f1ea]

LOL. a smilie is worth a thousand words...
I also don't think this was the reason MS retired. But these quotes are a nice gesture to Massa so yeah, I also think Massa is a nice guy, and a very talented and dedicated driver. I really hope he manages to put his resources together and win the WDC.

Also doubt he would return to F1, no matter how much he must miss the challenge and all F1. Of course, he still has above decent speed and skills, but the truth is he has very little left to prove or win and a hell of a lot to lose... MS retired gracefully, and although (as MFan said) he didnt win the championship in 06, he showed his class and skills.

[McLaren Fan]

But if Mike was the deciding factor why did Rory Byrne come to Ferrari? You say Newey is the best designer but truth be told going by the stats Rory Byrne comes out on top in the last 15 years

Newey was not that good a designer. His cars were works of art, serving no purpose other than themselves. At the beginning of his time at McLaren, they were fast, but dreadfully unreliable. From the end of 2000, they were not even fast anymore. If Schumacher was driving Newey's McLarens and if Hakkinen was driving Byrne's Ferraris, the careers of those two drivers would have been reversed, i.e. Schumacher would only have won a couple of titles and Hakkinen half a dozen. Both Hakkinen and Schumacher were excellent drivers, but their careers stand as an example as to just how important having the right equipment is to your levels of success.

[Denthúl]

If that's true it reflects badly on Massa more that Schumacher. I know he isn't the most gifted driver but he should be able to at least get regular podiums behind schumi because he is in the fastest car and if Schumacher retired because Massa can't keep up then he is worse than I thought

I think it was more a case of Ferrari wanting Raikkonen and, of course, Ferrari would not drop Michael for Kimi, so you know who'd lose their seat...

[deMuRe]

Bud and Mclaren Fan, you're looking at the relationship as purely linear, team makes car, driver drives car.

Every now and again, a driver comes a long that does a lot more then just drive the car.

Schumacher was a team leader. He demanded certain standards, worked harder then anybody else and applied himself like no other. He possibly tried too hard sometimes which lead him to make the mistakes he's so famous for.

His presence in the teams he drove for had many follow on effects, the results speak for themselves.

[McLaren Fan]

Bud and Mclaren Fan, you're looking at the relationship as purely linear, team makes car, driver drives car.

Every now and again, a driver comes a long that does a lot more then just drive the car.

Schumacher was a team leader. He demanded certain standards, worked harder then anybody else and applied himself like no other. He possibly tried too hard sometimes which lead him to make the mistakes he's so famous for.

His presence in the teams he drove for had many follow on effects, the results speak for themselves.

I agree that every now and again a driver comes along who is more than a driver. Schumacher was very definitely one of those. He motivated Ferrari, worked extremely hard and got the team geared around him. That, however, does not change the fact that Schumacher was only one component of the Ferrari dream team and that, no matter how good a driver you are, you need to have an competitive car. Ayrton Senna showed at Lotus and in 1992 and 1993 at McLaren that there is only so much a genius can do: Yes he can win races occasionally, but you won't be a serious title contender. Schumacher also showed that in 1992 and 1993 at Benetton and 1996 at Ferrari.

[7UpJordan]

I think it's a rather silly reason, I wouldn't object to him making a return for a race someday, it would be great to see him up against some of the new talents we have today like Hamilton, Kubica, Rosberg, Vettel, Sutil and co. whilst being re-engaged against some of his old rivals.

[Rivelution]

More than a year-and-a-half on from his retirement from Formula 1, Michael Schumacher – the most successful driver in the sport's history – has revealed that he walked away to save his team-mate and friend Felipe Massa's career.

The German – who claimed a record-breaking seven world drivers' crowns in the top flight, the product of an unrivalled 91 victories, 154 rostrum finishes, 68 pole positions and 1,369 points – hung up his F1 helmet at the end of his 16th season in 2006.

At the time many had surmised that he had quit rather than run the risk of being out-performed by Kimi Raikkonen, who had been signed up to drive for Ferrari the following year. Schumacher, though, insists this was not the case.

“I stopped because I didn't want my friend Felipe Massa to be unemployed,” the 39-year-old is quoted as having said by Swiss newspaper Blick. “I would have had no problem going up against Kimi Raikkonen.”

Schumacher will be in evidence throughout the forthcoming German Grand Prix weekend – around a circuit at which he triumphed on four occasions during his career in the uppermost echelon – fulfilling his role as a special consultant to the Scuderia. The outing will mark only his second paddock visit of the season, following his appearance in Barcelona almost three months ago. He is also due to play football in the 1 drivers' team on Wednesday.

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news ... ntent.html



That would have been interesting to see Kimi and Schumi in the same car.

[al4x]

ahh, i doubt he would comeback, he was good, one youd always be proud of if you beat him i expect

[Rivelution]

Oops, looks like Mike already posted this. Sorry.

[Sam-KK24]

I'd love to see him come back, he is the only driver I can support, through highs and lows..

I mean, I spend spare time watching his races, or watching stuff about him on Youtube, I'm just so happy I got to see him race

However,

I am worried that his legacy will be broken if he comes back and doesn't win.. Although I would love to see a Schumacher vs Alonso vs Lewis battle!

[racechick]

All this talk of Schumi coming back is giving me an 3rection!!!

Jesus! thats what turns you on

[al4x]

All this talk of Schumi coming back is giving me an 3rection!!!

Jesus! thats what turns you on

im sure it gives you one too racechick

[racechick]

All this talk of Schumi coming back is giving me an 3rection!!!

Jesus! thats what turns you on

im sure it gives you one too racechick