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#50327
Thats so not going to happen. Which drivers apart from Kimi, Massa and lewis are not in the GPDA



LEWIS HAMILTON has backed astonishing plans for a drivers’ strike at the British Grand Prix in a row over money.


Hamilton’s fellow multi-millionaire racers are furious after the cost of their super licence shot up by more than 500 per cent.


And they have threatened to take action at Silverstone on July 7 unless the fees are slashed.


The super licence, which drivers pay for themselves, has increased this year from £1,300 to £7,500.


And the stars also have to fork out £1,500 for every point they score instead of £350 — a rise which has been imposed retrospectively.


Hamilton, whose licence cost him £171,000, declared: “I’ve always said that even though I am not a member of the Grand Prix Drivers’ Association they will always have my support. It is something I agree with.”


The Brit, 23, who earns around


£10million with McLaren, has the second-highest super licence bill along with former team-mate Fernando Alonso after they both scored 109 points last year.


World champion Kimi Raikkonen — paid £25m per season at Ferrari — has to dip into his tax-exiled pocket to the tune of £172,500.


Former double world champ Alonso blasted: “It is a ridiculous price. We were talking about the price of the licence in the last couple of GPDA meetings.


“We are all agreed it’s not fair it has increased so much.

"I don’t know what the solution will be or what we will do — but a strike at Silverstone, that is one possibility. Why not?


“We’ve approached the FIA about this but we’ve not had positive answers.


“It is difficult because the drivers have commitments and contracts with our teams.

"It is not easy to decide what we can or cannot do.” Alonso, who earns around £10m at Renault, insisted the drivers had the right to fight for reduced fees despite being mega-rich.


He added: “If I’d had to pay this amount of money three or four years ago it would have been a much bigger percentage of my salary.


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“I’m sure there are still drivers scoring many points for whom it is not easy.”


A spokesman for the FIA, F1’s ruling body, said president Max Mosley had written to the GPDA on June 6 offering a meeting but had not heard back.


There has never been a drivers’ strike in F1 and it would be a massive blow to British motorsport with Silverstone a sell-out.


Spaniard Alonso, 26, added: “If the money is going to safety and to improve the circuits then maybe we would be happy to pay it.

"But there has been no answer.


“When we suggest things about new rules the drivers think are unnecessary or unfair the FIA does not listen to us too much.”




So it looks like Lewis will be striking too :( Can't believe this will happen though...............will be well gutted. Is my first ever Grand Prix and have been looking forward to it for months. Just bought my tent and everything :cry:

P.S This was taken from The Sun by the way so not sure quite how accurate it is !!!
#50337
But its not about how much they earn, its about value for money. What do they get for their licence fee? What services are provided for the fee? What does it cost to provide that service? How much of this cash ends up in the pockets of Moseley & Bernie (as fees / salary) who are millionaires in their own right?

I don't really know the answer to my own questions , but the level of income is not relevant to the cost of a service provided. For example, is it reasonable that a millionaire should pay £1,000 for a loaf of bread, just because he can afford it? No I don't think so. How would you guys feel if the cost of your driving licence / car tax went up by 500% just because some bureaucrat decided that you could afford it? I don't think that you would accept it with a smile would you?

At the same time, I don't think that the drivers should be taking strike action yet. They are highly paid and they owe a responsibility to fans, teams and sponsors, however a 500% increase for a service does sound highly unreasonable to me, and I think that they are entitled to resist it. Whether they can afford it or not is really not the point. It seems like FIA profiteering to me.
#50343
I don't think there's any chance for that strike. They only threaten to do it, so they can scare the FIA. Besides, I don't believe that all drivers would agree to do it. Kimi already said he doesn't care, he just wants to race :driving: . It's a bad method of dealing with the problem. They also have obligations to teams and fans, so they should be racing.
#50366
:censored: politics! :banghead:

I know it's sickening how politics are such a defining force as to the outcome of F1 today. I believe in and have always loved the saying "Oh shut the :censored: up and lets let the racing do the talking. :thumbup:
#50388
Hopefully the rumour about strike action is more fake than wrestling.


what do you mean as fake as wrestling :yikes:

Bud, there comes a time in every boys life when he learns the harrowing truth. Those wrestlers are just stunt men, and they're acting.

Oh, I kid, I kid.

I kid, I kid cos I love* ;)

*Don't start, figure of speech
#50391
But its not about how much they earn, its about value for money. What do they get for their licence fee? What services are provided for the fee? What does it cost to provide that service? How much of this cash ends up in the pockets of Moseley & Bernie (as fees / salary) who are millionaires in their own right?

I don't really know the answer to my own questions , but the level of income is not relevant to the cost of a service provided. For example, is it reasonable that a millionaire should pay £1,000 for a loaf of bread, just because he can afford it? No I don't think so. How would you guys feel if the cost of your driving licence / car tax went up by 500% just because some bureaucrat decided that you could afford it? I don't think that you would accept it with a smile would you?

At the same time, I don't think that the drivers should be taking strike action yet. They are highly paid and they owe a responsibility to fans, teams and sponsors, however a 500% increase for a service does sound highly unreasonable to me, and I think that they are entitled to resist it. Whether they can afford it or not is really not the point. It seems like FIA profiteering to me.

I agree that there are certain issues that need to be resolved, for instance, I'm not convinced that the pricing structure is completely fair. There is also the issue that Mosley railroaded this legislation through the FIA (as one can when one is a dictator) with little or no explanation. The part, I think, that most people are sickened about is how numerous drivers have tried to make out as they can't afford the increased fee.
#50392
Hamilton has also clarified his position on the strike rumours.

From itv-f1.com:

Lewis Hamilton has said he would not take part in any potential drivers’ strike at the British Grand Prix over the cost of a Formula 1 superlicence.

The Magny-Cours paddock was rife with speculation on Thursday that the Grand Prix Drivers’ Association (GPDA) was considering action at the Silverstone race in protest at the escalating cost of the licence – which a driver must have to compete in Formula 1 – from this year.

Hamilton, who isn’t part of the GPDA, was one of the drivers asked in the pre-event press conference at the circuit for his thoughts on the matter.

He has since issued a statement on Friday clarifying his comments and confirming he isn’t considering strike action.

"In the FIA press conference at Magny-Cours on Thursday June 19, I expressed my support for whatever decisions the drivers may take, on the basis that my support could be critical,” the statement read.

“I am not involved in any strike talks; that is not my position.

“I am here to race; to do my job for the team, for myself and for the fans of Formula 1.

"To put my comment in the correct perspective, another driver said, 'I think it will be difficult to get all the drivers to have the same idea, but we're trying to convince the FIA to reduce the cost.'

"I then responded, 'I've always said that they have my support; and it's something I agree with as well.'”

The McLaren driver added that he didn’t believe that a strike was a serious possibility.

"In any case, I don't believe for one minute that the drivers will take such drastic measures,” he said.

“We have the British Grand Prix in a couple of weeks' time and other Grands Prix to follow, and I'm certainly not planning on missing any of them."

Many drivers have expressed their displeasure with the rising cost of the superlicence from this year, which has increased from €1,725 (£1,286) plus €456 (£340) per point scored in the previous year’s championship to €10,000 (£7,452) plus €2,000 (£1,490) per point scored in 2007.

GPDA director Fernando Alonso labelled the price hike “ridiculous” and confirmed that the drivers’ body was discussing how to lobby the FIA to reconsider the tariffs.
#50393
But its not about how much they earn, its about value for money. What do they get for their licence fee? What services are provided for the fee? What does it cost to provide that service? How much of this cash ends up in the pockets of Moseley & Bernie (as fees / salary) who are millionaires in their own right?

I don't really know the answer to my own questions , but the level of income is not relevant to the cost of a service provided. For example, is it reasonable that a millionaire should pay £1,000 for a loaf of bread, just because he can afford it? No I don't think so. How would you guys feel if the cost of your driving licence / car tax went up by 500% just because some bureaucrat decided that you could afford it? I don't think that you would accept it with a smile would you?

At the same time, I don't think that the drivers should be taking strike action yet. They are highly paid and they owe a responsibility to fans, teams and sponsors, however a 500% increase for a service does sound highly unreasonable to me, and I think that they are entitled to resist it. Whether they can afford it or not is really not the point. It seems like FIA profiteering to me.


Well said Martin I agree 100%. Drivers should pay a fixed price per season for their super license and the variable of points should be scrapped. The FIA do nothing for the drivers except cause endless headaches with new and crazy rules introduced every season. However the answer is not to strike even though it is an unfair price rise they still can afford it.
#50394
But its not about how much they earn, its about value for money. What do they get for their licence fee? What services are provided for the fee? What does it cost to provide that service? How much of this cash ends up in the pockets of Moseley & Bernie (as fees / salary) who are millionaires in their own right?

I don't really know the answer to my own questions , but the level of income is not relevant to the cost of a service provided. For example, is it reasonable that a millionaire should pay £1,000 for a loaf of bread, just because he can afford it? No I don't think so. How would you guys feel if the cost of your driving licence / car tax went up by 500% just because some bureaucrat decided that you could afford it? I don't think that you would accept it with a smile would you?

At the same time, I don't think that the drivers should be taking strike action yet. They are highly paid and they owe a responsibility to fans, teams and sponsors, however a 500% increase for a service does sound highly unreasonable to me, and I think that they are entitled to resist it. Whether they can afford it or not is really not the point. It seems like FIA profiteering to me.


Well said Martin I agree 100%. Drivers should pay a fixed price per season for their super license and the variable of points should be scrapped. The FIA do nothing for the drivers except cause endless headaches with new and crazy rules introduced every season. However the answer is not to strike even though it is an unfair price rise they still can afford it.


Both outlooks are very well said and imho the truth.
#50397
Hopefully the rumour about strike action is more fake than wrestling.


what do you mean as fake as wrestling :yikes:

Bud, there comes a time in every boys life when he learns the harrowing truth. Those wrestlers are just stunt men, and they're acting.

Oh, I kid, I kid.

I kid, I kid cos I love* ;)

*Don't start, figure of speech


not listening la la la la la la la la la :laugh:









im not a wrestling fan btw just want to make that clear 8) , though i work with a guy that runs a local wrestling group http://www.riotcitywrestling.com i get told its real all the time :laugh:
#88715
Drivers in dispute over superlicence fee

By Jonathan Noble Friday, January 23rd 2009, 12:55 GMT


Formula One drivers are refusing to sign their mandatory FIA superlicences amid a fresh dispute with the sport's governing body about their price, autosport.com can reveal.

Last season drivers were unhappy about a price hike from 1,725 Euros plus 456 Euros per point for the licences, to 10,000 Euros plus 2,000 Euros per point for the 2008 season.

They accepted the payments then, however, despite calling on the FIA and Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone to justify the increase in costs.

Former world champion Fernando Alonso said at the time: "It is a very serious matter...we all agree that it is not fair that from one year to the next it (the cost) increases 500-600 percent."

There was talk mid-season of the matter resulting in a drivers' strike at the British Grand Prix, but these reports proved unfounded.

However, high level sources have revealed to autosport.com that drivers have now taken the matter into their own hands because of a further minor increase in the licence costs due to be introduced for the 2009 season.

The price of a licence has increased by 400 Euros (to 10,400 Euros), while drivers must pay an extra 100 Euros ( to 2100 Euros) per point scored. There is also a 2,720 Euros compulsory insurance charge.

Although the 2009 increases are purely the result of inflation, it is understood that the Grand Prix Drivers' Association (GPDA) is deeply unhappy about the price increase. Under the current fees, world champion Lewis Hamilton will have to pay 218,920 Euros for his licence fees this year.

The GPDA has taken up the matter on behalf of its representatives to try and get the increases cancelled, and has urged drivers not to sign and pay for the licences until the situation is sorted.

Autosport.com understands that correspondence has already been exchanged with the FIA about the matter, and is understood that president Max Mosley said he was willing to discuss the situation, but only if drivers could provide him with details of their earnings so he could judge whether the fee was too high.

With no resolution in sight between the drivers and the FIA, and amid a risk of the situation not getting sorted before teams head to Melbourne for the first race, the matter has now been tabled for discussion at the next meeting of the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) that takes place early next month.

This week the GPDA urged drivers not to sign their superlicence paperwork, despite pressure beginning to come from their teams, before the FOTA meeting.

In an e-mail sent to drivers by the GPDA, a copy of which has been seen by autosport.com, it was made clear that the drivers' body wanted all members to hold firm.

"(The) Superlicence issue will be addressed at the next FOTA meeting which will take place on February 3," said the email. "We would like you to wait approximately three more weeks to sign or pay for the Superlicence.

"This should give us enough time to hear from the FOTA and at the same time increase our pressure on the FIA."

It is not clear how much FOTA will wish to get involved in the drivers' situation, with sources suggesting teams do not wish the superlicence matter to overshadow progress being made between them and the FIA about cost cuts and other changes to the sport.

Mosley said at the start of last year that the licence fee had increased so much because of the rising costs of safety.

"We spend a fortune on safety and most of it is for the benefit of the drivers," Mosley explained. "A lot of the people who have otherwise been meeting the bill said 'Hang on a minute, these drivers are all earning megabucks and we are spending a fortune to try and make sure they are safe. So hence the increase."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72964
#88728
Autosport.com understands that correspondence has already been exchanged with the FIA about the matter, and is understood that president Max Mosley said he was willing to discuss the situation, but only if drivers could provide him with details of their earnings so he could judge whether the fee was too high.


Ahaha, nicely done MM.
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