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#50229
Drivers like Hamilton will be earning tonnes, but I have a feeling Kubica can't be earning too much in comparison.

We need Mark Webber to come out and slag off Mad Max again. And also I wonder what Bernie would have to say about the matter too?
#50232
Piss off. They make so much that it doesn't matter to them. Alright, the drivers with much lower salaries (Sutil, Davidson, Glock etc) can't afford the licence of someone like, say, Alonso or Raikkonen, but then they tend to have less championship points so pay less anyway. Meanwhile, normal people are having to fork out massive chunks of their salaries just to live. Ridiculous.
#50243
They :censored: better not strike! I may stop watching F1 and convert to Moto GP if they did, you never get this sort of :censored: in Moto GP.
#50252
Hopefully the rumour about strike action is more fake than wrestling.
#50254
Do you want me to dropkick you in the back of the head?

:thumbup:
#50258
Piss off. They make so much that it doesn't matter to them. Alright, the drivers with much lower salaries (Sutil, Davidson, Glock etc) can't afford the licence of someone like, say, Alonso or Raikkonen, but then they tend to have less championship points so pay less anyway. Meanwhile, normal people are having to fork out massive chunks of their salaries just to live. Ridiculous.

As I said, a driver how earns no points is not even paying £8,000. Even the lowest paid drivers in Formula One are on seven-figure salaries, so that's peanuts to them. At the other end of the grid, Hamilton is being £13.7 million by McLaren each year - and this does not include personal sponsorship and other similar deals. The £230,000 he had to pay pales into insignificance. What's also disturbing, is that the money raised is use for their safety!

The pricing system is slightly unfair and could do with some reworking, but that's the only thing I'd be prepared to negotiate on.

From autosport.com:

Webber: drivers should speak to Ecclestone

By Simon Strang Thursday, June 19th 2008, 17:13 GMT

Mark WebberGrand Prix Drivers' Association director Mark Webber believes that Formula One racers should discuss their concerns over the price of superlicence fees with Bernie Ecclestone.

F1 drivers are unhappy that licence fees have gone up in 2008, from 1,725 euros last year with 456 added on for each point scored in the previous year's championship, to 10,000 euros with 2,000 added on for every point scored.

The GPDA claims its complaints to the FIA about the fees have fallen on deaf ears so far, and although talk of a strike at the British Grand Prix seems far fetched, Webber thinks the GPDA should approach Ecclestone to see if an agreement can be reached with him.

"It's absolutely clear that we are not happy with the superlicence situation and how much they charge, but I find it very unrealistic that we won't race," Webber told autosport.com.

"We should just have a chat with Bernie. He's got common sense, and we should see what he says. Let's see if we can improve the situation and make it a bit more professional."

Webber added that the drivers accept that they must pay a fee for their licences, and that it is right that this goes towards improving safety standards, but said that they were unhappy with the way the fees had been applied without prior discussion.

"Well they [the FIA] just decided between themselves," he said. "And then sent an invoice to the drivers. We had our hands tied behind our backs and it was agreed by none of the drivers.

"We are being charged that amount and we will be charged that amount."

Asked why Webber thought it would be better to speak to Ecclestone rather than go straight to FIA president Max Mosley, who announced the changes in January, the Red Bull driver replied: "We can't get a meeting with Max, and we can see Bernie a lot easier, so it makes sense to go to him. [We should] pick it up with him to start with.

"Bernie comes to the races so that's useful, so it should happen in the next few weeks."

Webber ruled out talk of a strike, however, adding that it was not a good reason to take such a draconian course of action.

"It's not on the top of my list. I want to get some points in Magny-Cours," he said. "I am not thinking about striking. I think every now and again we need to have a chat with the big cheeses and maybe this is what will chat about.

"You can't threaten these guys. You just don't do it. We all love the sport, we love it. We strive to get here and we strive to be here, we don't want it to look like that. We don't want to look like prima donnas either.

"The public needs to understand how some of these things get decided. Yes we are looked after financially and paid quite well but Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't pay 300 grand a year to play football, on top of his licence to walk on the pitch.

"I don't think they [the FIA] are bothered. It's not on their radar. They have got loads of other things going through, so a few hundred grand coming through from the drivers is not a big deal. We accept that but we are not happy, and we are just looking to find a way to see if they can compromise on it."


I agree with Webber that there is an issue with how things are decided in Formula One, but I'm not sure I completely with agree with some of the other stuff he says. For instance, Cristiano Ronaldo is not flying around the football field at 200 mph, so does not need money spent on safety measures!
#50259
"For the thousands in attendence... for the millions watching at home... and for 7upJordan.... LETS GET READY TO SUCK IT!!!!! AND IF YOUR NOT DOWN WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA... SUCK IT!"
#50260
Do you want me to dropkick you in the back of the head?

:thumbup:

Sure, especially now you've told me to do it, which then afterwards I'll pretend to do a clothesline on you... I'll literally use you as a clothesline so I can dry my clothes. :P:D

"For the thousands in attendence... for the millions watching at home... and for 7upJordan.... LETS GET READY TO SUCK IT!!!!! AND IF YOUR NOT DOWN WITH THAT, WE'VE GOT TWO WORDS FOR YA... SUCK IT!"

I used to watch it years ago, it was alright, everybody knows it's not real but I really couldn't think up anything else that was fake. ;)

"The public needs to understand how some of these things get decided. Yes we are looked after financially and paid quite well but Cristiano Ronaldo doesn't pay 300 grand a year to play football, on top of his licence to walk on the pitch.

Quite funny how Webber mentions Ronaldo on a day that Ronaldo is rumoured to have announced he is leaving Manchester United and going to Real Madrid instead, shame he didn't mention anything about his diving though. :P
#50295
Guys, the strike would not be effective immediately. I'm pretty sure they would need to give more notice than the week leading up to the Grand Prix, so even if they are meeting at the British GP and do decide to strike it would take place later in the calendar.

Incidentally, the races could still go ahead with scab drivers, both current non-union drivers and those outside F1
#50296
Guys, the strike would not be effective immediately. I'm pretty sure they would need to give more notice than the week leading up to the Grand Prix, so even if they are meeting at the British GP and do decide to strike it would take place later in the calendar.

Incidentally, the races could still go ahead with scab drivers, both current non-union drivers and those outside F1


Yeah, if not i'll drive one of the cars. Beat Hamilton. :P
By mooker
#50324
The price hike equates to over an extra €1M that the FIA are taking off the drivers. Even if the drivers do earn a fortune, I'd still say its a little unjustified. I wonder how much Max's court case is costing...
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