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By McLaren Fan
#49215
From F1 Live:

In the wake of the Max Mosley umpalumpa scandal, McLaren boss Ron Dennis has refused to rule out backing a Formula One 'breakaway'.

It emerged recently that splitting with the Mosley-led FIA was discussed between team chiefs and Bernie Ecclestone during a series of meetings at the Canadian Grand Prix.

British-based team McLaren, last year fined $100m by the FIA for its involvement in a spy scandal, said in the wake of Mosley's retention as FIA President that it hoped the sport "will now enter a period of stability."

But at the Mercedes-powered team's Woking factory on Wednesday, for the launch of a British motorsport campaign 'Go Motorsport', Dennis refused to rule out a shakeup.

"If anything is put forward as an initiative that is in the best interests of Formula One and this company I will support it," he said in an interview with the news agency AP.


"That does not mean I favour any particular path at the moment. We need stability, consistency and the right values and images for Formula One and whatever process is put forward if it's the right one I'll support it," he added.

Dennis, McLaren's chairman, CEO and co-owner, said he was disappointed about the leaks following the Montreal meetings, including speculation that his team and also Honda support Ecclestone's rumoured 'breakaway' threat.


Meanwhile, Ecclestone has been putting out the fires of speculation on the matter:

From autosport.com:

Ecclestone downplays breakaway reports

By Pablo Elizalde Friday, June 13th 2008, 08:46 GMT

Bernie EcclestoneFormula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone has written to the FIA member clubs to play down suggestions of a possible breakaway championship.

Talks to frame a new Concorde Agreement began during the Canadian Grand Prix weekend, but there were reports that Ecclestone and the teams could go as far as creating a breakaway championship if they fail to get the FIA to agree with the new deal.

"I'm certainly not advocating a breakaway but in theory they could do their own deal for TV, whatever," Ecclestone was quoted in the Sunday Express as saying.

Ecclestone, however, has sent a letter to all FIA member clubs clarifying his and the teams' position.

"The position of Formula One Management and the teams and the Formula One promoters is very simple," Ecclestone wrote in the letter, a copy of which was seen by autosport.com.

"They would like a Concorde Agreement signed in basically the same format as in the past agreements which Formula One has been governed successfully by this type of document for over 25 years which helps to stabilise the Technical and Sporting Regulations.

"It follows the agreement reached with the European Commission where the FIA are the regulators of the sport and FOM are the commercial side of Formula One. We would hope that this can continue."

Ecclestone also said that nothing had changed in the FIA following the scandal involving president Max Mosley, despite calls from some manufacturers and clubs asking him to step down.

"As far as the FIA president is concerned this has now been made clear and there is not a change in the position at this time," Ecclestone added.

"A number of the manufacturers and teams along with their sponsors have stated that they thought the president should stand down because of matters in his private life.

"This is their and only their opinion as they are not part of the FIA and therefore do not have votes.

"Personally Max has been a friend for 40 years and I hope he still is. He has in his way carried out many matters which have been beneficial to the FIA and should be appreciated for this."
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By Rivelution
#49220
Max Mosley is the biggest retard to walk on the face of the earth. He doesnt love F1, because if he did, he would have resigned a long time ago. This scandal is bringing down the sport and he is too retarded to see that.
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By racechick
#49255
Max Mosley is the biggest retard to walk on the face of the earth. He doesnt love F1, because if he did, he would have resigned a long time ago. This scandal is bringing down the sport and he is too retarded to see that.

Too arrogant, opinionated and self centerd to see it. I read in autosport that the teams were veerring away from having a breakaway preferring the option of a new concorde agreement with the FIA on board. I wish theyd go for the breakaway, Ecclestone wants that. (which actually makes me a bit suspicious, he doesnt do things out of the kindness of his heart!!)
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By Denthúl
#49256
I don't think a breakaway series would be a good idea, personally. It would be much better to push for a re-structure of the FIA, because that would then benefit all motorsports and not just Formula 1. It would also take up time to set up the series, a governing body to decide all the rules and regulations and sort out all the necessary contracts with circuits.
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By bud
#49258
I don't think a breakaway series would be a good idea, personally. It would be much better to push for a re-structure of the FIA, because that would then benefit all motorsports and not just Formula 1. It would also take up time to set up the series, a governing body to decide all the rules and regulations and sort out all the necessary contracts with circuits.


doesnt FOM setup the contracts for circuits with the ruling side being done by the FIA, i dont think it would take much for FOM to create their own governing body and keep all the circuit contracts they have in place now.

and the FIA isnt the end all of Motorsports. maybe in Europe....
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By Denthúl
#49260
I don't think a breakaway series would be a good idea, personally. It would be much better to push for a re-structure of the FIA, because that would then benefit all motorsports and not just Formula 1. It would also take up time to set up the series, a governing body to decide all the rules and regulations and sort out all the necessary contracts with circuits.


doesnt FOM setup the contracts for circuits with the ruling side being done by the FIA, i dont think it would take much for FOM to create their own governing body and keep all the circuit contracts they have in place now.

and the FIA isnt the end all of Motorsports. maybe in Europe....


No, but it does govern a large amount of the biggest motorsporting categories. FOM sets up the contracts, but I would imagine that those contracts are on behalf of the FIA Formula 1 World Championship. I could be wrong, but the only real way of knowing would be to ask FOM...
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By bud
#49264
true i remember reading about one of the German motor clubs wanting to pull out of the FIA and what affect it will have on the F1 race in Germany as the FIA has to have a presence in that country to control the regulations during the GP so yeah the contract side of things might be abit more inter twined than i thought!
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By 7UpJordan
#49293
Wasn't there talk a few years ago about most of the F1 teams wanting to breakaway from F1?
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By bud
#49295
Wasn't there talk a few years ago about most of the F1 teams wanting to breakaway from F1?


GPMA were in talks but that fell through unfortunately
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By McLaren Fan
#49347
The ideal situation would be to have a reformed FIA, with more accountability and legitimacy. The likelihood of that really happening is slim; even if there was a decent FIA President, the current structures of of the FIA would mean there is nothing to stop another dictator coming along after he retires. Reform is needed. If it didn't happened, and provided the FOM could secure the current circuits, major teams and sponsors, I wouldn't say no to a breakaway series.
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By 7UpJordan
#49356
A reformation is probably the best way forward, but sadly the least likely to happen anytime soon. The other options - being breaking away and trying to ride out Mosley's reign of terror - will just leave F1 in a huge mess.
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By EwanM
#49372
A reformation is probably the best way forward, but sadly the least likely to happen anytime soon. The other options - being breaking away and trying to ride out Mosley's reign of terror - will just leave F1 in a huge mess.


How long has Max got left term wise? He ain't standing after that he claims.
James Allen for FIA President.
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By rhyscoles
#49437
If there is a breakaway thera are talks about F1 having to be renamed to something like GP1. Is that the most retatded annoying thing in the world or what.
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By McLaren Fan
#49449
A reformation is probably the best way forward, but sadly the least likely to happen anytime soon. The other options - being breaking away and trying to ride out Mosley's reign of terror - will just leave F1 in a huge mess.

If all the teams and sponsors are on board, the process would be pretty painless. I'm sure the FOM and teams could easily come up with a means of government and set of rules without too much trouble. Nobody wants to see a breakaway series, but it would be a worthwhile sacrifice to rid the sport of a corrupt FIA.
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By racechick
#49450
A reformation is probably the best way forward, but sadly the least likely to happen anytime soon. The other options - being breaking away and trying to ride out Mosley's reign of terror - will just leave F1 in a huge mess.

If all the teams and sponsors are on board, the process would be pretty painless. I'm sure the FOM and teams could easily come up with a means of government and set of rules without too much trouble. Nobody wants to see a breakaway series, but it would be a worthwhile sacrifice to rid the sport of a corrupt FIA.

I think it would be well worth a while of turmoil to have a non corrupt governing body, but the teams are saying they dont want to go down that route. I dont understand why?

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