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#48616
From autosport.com:

By Jonathan Noble and Matt Beer Thursday, June 12th 2008, 11:37 GMT

The Montreal circuit could be reprofiled before next season in a bid to prevent a repeat of the track surface problems that blighted this year's Canadian Grand Prix weekend.

Several drivers were highly critical of the circuit after the surface crumbled in several areas during qualifying. Track repairs overnight and in the build-up to the race eased the problem during the GP, but did not completely resolve the issue.

The track's executive vice president Francois Dumontier said the problem would be investigated in collaboration with the FIA, and suggested that the Turn 10 hairpin - one of the corners most seriously affected - could be realigned for the future.

"The problem seems to be in the curves," Dumontier told autosport.com.

"We'll look at the hairpin, and the configuration of the hairpin. We'll look seriously at it with the FIA."

Dumontier admitted that the track owners were taken aback by the problems with the surface, having thought it had been successfully resolved after similar incidents in previous seasons.

"We had the same problem last year, since 2005 in fact, so after last year we took a serious look at what product to put there, and we really thought that what we installed was good enough to hold for the weekend," he said.

"So we were pretty upset with what happened in qualifying, and we'll have to go back again and see what we can do. We'll look at what other tracks are doing, and see if we can use the same kind of product."

He believes the Montreal track is uniquely hard to maintain both because it uses public roads, and because of the extreme weather conditions seen in the region.

"We're the only racetrack that goes from plus-30 in the summer to minus-30 in the winter," Dumontier said. "The asphalt is affected by that, and the track is used a lot by buses and cycles all the time, so there's something there."
#48915
Banking would be awesome, but no doubt someone
(*cough Coulthard *cought) would complain that it was to dangerous somehow
#48916
I would like them to re-insert the old right-left chicane at the straight going past the Casino and leading onto the final chicane and "Wall of Champions". 8)
Banking would be awesome, but no doubt someone
(*cough Coulthard *cought) would complain that it was to dangerous somehow

True. :lol:
#48939
Hope they don't turn it into one of those Hermann Tilke style hairpins. Banking would be a good idea.
#49472
"the problem seems to be on the curves"! What a tosser, if that is all he can say - the blindingly obvious, then its no wonder that the circuit is unsuitable. Track surfaces are not a problem, so why does Montreal have a one? Probably because those in charge have little or no understanding of what they are doing. At the race Dumontier said that the problem was with the cars!. he said that the circuit had been there for 30 years but the cars had changed!!! :?
The circuit is unsuitable in other ways in that there are too many places where cars cannot be quickly removed from the track after a prang or breakdown - hence the safety cars. Best if they just found a better circuit or left Canada off the calender.
#49519
"the problem seems to be on the curves"! What a tosser, if that is all he can say - the blindingly obvious, then its no wonder that the circuit is unsuitable. Track surfaces are not a problem, so why does Montreal have a one? Probably because those in charge have little or no understanding of what they are doing. At the race Dumontier said that the problem was with the cars!. he said that the circuit had been there for 30 years but the cars had changed!!! :?
The circuit is unsuitable in other ways in that there are too many places where cars cannot be quickly removed from the track after a prang or breakdown - hence the safety cars. Best if they just found a better circuit or left Canada off the calender.



A bit harsh :mrgreen:
#49574
"the problem seems to be on the curves"! What a tosser, if that is all he can say - the blindingly obvious, then its no wonder that the circuit is unsuitable. Track surfaces are not a problem, so why does Montreal have a one? Probably because those in charge have little or no understanding of what they are doing. At the race Dumontier said that the problem was with the cars!. he said that the circuit had been there for 30 years but the cars had changed!!! :?
The circuit is unsuitable in other ways in that there are too many places where cars cannot be quickly removed from the track after a prang or breakdown - hence the safety cars. Best if they just found a better circuit or left Canada off the calender.



A bit harsh :mrgreen:


Yes, maybe a bit harsh DD but, the facts are that track surfaces are not a problem these days if done properly. (My next door neighbour works for TRL and his speciality is road surfaces and he has advised on race circuit surfacing. He saw the problem @ Montreal (TV) and identified the it (cheap, outdated surface basicaly)). I am sure that the canadians are able to build decent quality surfaces if they want to. Dumontier obviously does not understand the requirements, his comments make that clear. The difficult removal of dead cars is also a problem. Are the Canadians really saying that they cant do better?
Montreal needs new management, new surface, new car removal systems, or, a differnt circuit. Berni should require standards of facilities and management. They seem to put more effort into comfort for the teams than into the quality of the circuit.
I dont have a problem with walls (the wall of Champions), that just adds a dimension but track surface and efficient vehicle removal is essential to allow continuity of racing.
#49575
"the problem seems to be on the curves"! What a tosser, if that is all he can say - the blindingly obvious, then its no wonder that the circuit is unsuitable. Track surfaces are not a problem, so why does Montreal have a one? Probably because those in charge have little or no understanding of what they are doing. At the race Dumontier said that the problem was with the cars!. he said that the circuit had been there for 30 years but the cars had changed!!! :?
The circuit is unsuitable in other ways in that there are too many places where cars cannot be quickly removed from the track after a prang or breakdown - hence the safety cars. Best if they just found a better circuit or left Canada off the calender.



A bit harsh :mrgreen:


Yes, maybe a bit harsh DD but, the facts are that track surfaces are not a problem these days if done properly. (My next door neighbour works for TRL and his speciality is road surfaces and he has advised on race circuit surfacing. He saw the problem @ Montreal (TV) and identified the it (cheap, outdated surface basicaly)). I am sure that the canadians are able to build decent quality surfaces if they want to. Dumontier obviously does not understand the requirements, his comments make that clear. The difficult removal of dead cars is also a problem. Are the Canadians really saying that they cant do better?
Montreal needs new management, new surface, new car removal systems, or, a differnt circuit. Berni should require standards of facilities and management. They seem to put more effort into comfort for the teams than into the quality of the circuit.
I dont have a problem with walls (the wall of Champions), that just adds a dimension but track surface and efficient vehicle removal is essential to allow continuity of racing.


Well French Canadians are abit slower than their Anglo counterparts maybe move the race to Toronto :twisted:
#49589
:lol:

Whilst I don't think Canada should be taken off the calendar, what Martin says apart from that is not far off the mark. The surface needs replaced and maintained much better. Dumontier's comments suggest that he does know what he is talking about. Martin is also right about Ecclestone's role in all of this. He is more concerned about his VIP guests than the quality of the bread and butter issues, in this case, the quality of the track's surface.

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