- 12 Jun 08, 14:26#48586
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Here is a funny satire I just read from someone on Planet-F1 by Guia.
I am sure he won't mine me sharing his wisdom here.Arrogance endemic at McLaren as Lewis says "I don't need to win to be the best"
Given the unstoppable force of righteous zeal in the face of that scoundrel Lewis Hamilton and all his wrongdoings, I thought I'd join the fun with a thread of my own. Don't expect a reasoned critique assessing the various vices and virtues of Mclaren's star driver, my sole motive is to draw attention to and emphasise anything that might be construed as reprehensible in the hope that we may spread the hate...
In a shocking but somehow unsurprising statement, Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug has come out in defense of his driver's inexcusable mistake at the Canadian GP, saying that Lewis Hamilton did nothing wrong by destroying his race (along with that of two other drivers) because, up to that point, his performance had been quite good. Apparently, Haug doesn't mind losing ten World Championship points. But more troubling than that are the reasons why.
Clearly, Hamilton's inflated ego is merely symptomatic of a wider, endemic culture within McLaren-Mercedes. From the Mercedes top brass, through the example of 'Mr Integrity' Ron Dennis and down to the clandestine complicity of McLaren's technicians (and probably its janitors), the organisation is infested with an arrogance so toxic that it has left its victims blinded by the substance to which they have become addicted.
Certainly, Hamilton is as blind to his own faults as he is a red traffic light or a queue of stationary cars. But his hubris would hardly be possible were it not for an environment which doesn't just tolerate but positively encourages such delusion as surely as it grovels at the feet of a driver who embodies the very ethos of this corrupt company. This disturbing truth is further evidenced by the woes of team-mate Heikki Kovalainen: the Finn does not share in the warped values of McLaren, and his performances are suffering as a result. But while Heikki says nothing, Hamilton hails each of his own failures as yet another example of his brilliance.
Lewis reached a new low with his evasive comments following the Canadian crime. But, seen in the context of Haug's commendation, we understand what really lies behind his refusal to acknowledge blame. As far as Lewis is concerned, he is the best driver the world has ever seen and it doesn't matter what he does because he's better than the title he doesn't need to win.
I think that, by now, Formula 1 has had enough of all this. Lewis Hamilton's Greatest Hits include the unforgettable Golden Crane, the exhilarating Sands of Shanghai, the playful Button Fingers and, now, the tragic love song Lewis Lane. We all know that Hamilton would rather be an actor or a pop star, so maybe it's time he considered another career. As for McLaren, not content with cheating their way to a championship that they still couldn't win, they now see fit to denigrate the very sport that puts up with them by saying that they care even less about winning races than they do about ruining those of their competitors because, hey, they have the best driver.
This has got to stop. If Lewis Hamilton and McLaren-Mercedes are allowed to continue with their flagrant violations of the rules and ethics of Formula 1, they stand to destroy the sport we all love. Far from being addicted to arrogance and pumped up on pride, they should be perfectly ashamed of themselves. by Guia from planet - F1
After the race:
Here is a funny satire I just read from someone on Planet-F1 by Guia.
I am sure he won't mine me sharing his wisdom here.Arrogance endemic at McLaren as Lewis says "I don't need to win to be the best"
Given the unstoppable force of righteous zeal in the face of that scoundrel Lewis Hamilton and all his wrongdoings, I thought I'd join the fun with a thread of my own. Don't expect a reasoned critique assessing the various vices and virtues of Mclaren's star driver, my sole motive is to draw attention to and emphasise anything that might be construed as reprehensible in the hope that we may spread the hate...
In a shocking but somehow unsurprising statement, Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug has come out in defense of his driver's inexcusable mistake at the Canadian GP, saying that Lewis Hamilton did nothing wrong by destroying his race (along with that of two other drivers) because, up to that point, his performance had been quite good. Apparently, Haug doesn't mind losing ten World Championship points. But more troubling than that are the reasons why.
Clearly, Hamilton's inflated ego is merely symptomatic of a wider, endemic culture within McLaren-Mercedes. From the Mercedes top brass, through the example of 'Mr Integrity' Ron Dennis and down to the clandestine complicity of McLaren's technicians (and probably its janitors), the organisation is infested with an arrogance so toxic that it has left its victims blinded by the substance to which they have become addicted.
Certainly, Hamilton is as blind to his own faults as he is a red traffic light or a queue of stationary cars. But his hubris would hardly be possible were it not for an environment which doesn't just tolerate but positively encourages such delusion as surely as it grovels at the feet of a driver who embodies the very ethos of this corrupt company. This disturbing truth is further evidenced by the woes of team-mate Heikki Kovalainen: the Finn does not share in the warped values of McLaren, and his performances are suffering as a result. But while Heikki says nothing, Hamilton hails each of his own failures as yet another example of his brilliance.
Lewis reached a new low with his evasive comments following the Canadian crime. But, seen in the context of Haug's commendation, we understand what really lies behind his refusal to acknowledge blame. As far as Lewis is concerned, he is the best driver the world has ever seen and it doesn't matter what he does because he's better than the title he doesn't need to win.
I think that, by now, Formula 1 has had enough of all this. Lewis Hamilton's Greatest Hits include the unforgettable Golden Crane, the exhilarating Sands of Shanghai, the playful Button Fingers and, now, the tragic love song Lewis Lane. We all know that Hamilton would rather be an actor or a pop star, so maybe it's time he considered another career. As for McLaren, not content with cheating their way to a championship that they still couldn't win, they now see fit to denigrate the very sport that puts up with them by saying that they care even less about winning races than they do about ruining those of their competitors because, hey, they have the best driver.
This has got to stop. If Lewis Hamilton and McLaren-Mercedes are allowed to continue with their flagrant violations of the rules and ethics of Formula 1, they stand to destroy the sport we all love. Far from being addicted to arrogance and pumped up on pride, they should be perfectly ashamed of themselves. by Guia from planet - F1
Hamilton is an arrogant punk as far as I'm concerned, but the rest of the article is a load of biased cobblers. What are McLaren meant to do? Come out and publicly slate their driver? No, that should be done in house (unlike Hamilton, it has to be said, who criticises the team to anybody, anytime)
yeah fair enough, if kimi hadnt been there hed have gotton a penalty anyway, as would nico
I applaud Nico Rosberg, has he said anything yet? Nope.
Inevitably it will make Lewis stronger, as it would any driver. Lewis won't be driving through Red Lights again surely?
After the race:
I also would not mind seeing Hammy in the Ferrari.
There is more of Schumacher than of Senna in that kid anyway...
No way! If you're talking arrogance. Schumacher was Mr. Arrogance. And the difference between Lewis and Schumacher is Lewis does not take his arrogance on to the race track and use i against his competitors in a "this is my track, my championship, my corner so move or get knocked off" sort of way. That is the arrogance that is not necessary in F1 and i've not seen that in Lewis. That is a diferent to thing to thinking you're the best. If lewis starts those tactics that's when i will reassess my opinion of him.
Here is a funny satire I just read from someone on Planet-F1 by Guia.
I am sure he won't mine me sharing his wisdom here.Arrogance endemic at McLaren as Lewis says "I don't need to win to be the best"
Given the unstoppable force of righteous zeal in the face of that scoundrel Lewis Hamilton and all his wrongdoings, I thought I'd join the fun with a thread of my own. Don't expect a reasoned critique assessing the various vices and virtues of Mclaren's star driver, my sole motive is to draw attention to and emphasise anything that might be construed as reprehensible in the hope that we may spread the hate...
In a shocking but somehow unsurprising statement, Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug has come out in defense of his driver's inexcusable mistake at the Canadian GP, saying that Lewis Hamilton did nothing wrong by destroying his race (along with that of two other drivers) because, up to that point, his performance had been quite good. Apparently, Haug doesn't mind losing ten World Championship points. But more troubling than that are the reasons why.
Clearly, Hamilton's inflated ego is merely symptomatic of a wider, endemic culture within McLaren-Mercedes. From the Mercedes top brass, through the example of 'Mr Integrity' Ron Dennis and down to the clandestine complicity of McLaren's technicians (and probably its janitors), the organisation is infested with an arrogance so toxic that it has left its victims blinded by the substance to which they have become addicted.
Certainly, Hamilton is as blind to his own faults as he is a red traffic light or a queue of stationary cars. But his hubris would hardly be possible were it not for an environment which doesn't just tolerate but positively encourages such delusion as surely as it grovels at the feet of a driver who embodies the very ethos of this corrupt company. This disturbing truth is further evidenced by the woes of team-mate Heikki Kovalainen: the Finn does not share in the warped values of McLaren, and his performances are suffering as a result. But while Heikki says nothing, Hamilton hails each of his own failures as yet another example of his brilliance.
Lewis reached a new low with his evasive comments following the Canadian crime. But, seen in the context of Haug's commendation, we understand what really lies behind his refusal to acknowledge blame. As far as Lewis is concerned, he is the best driver the world has ever seen and it doesn't matter what he does because he's better than the title he doesn't need to win.
I think that, by now, Formula 1 has had enough of all this. Lewis Hamilton's Greatest Hits include the unforgettable Golden Crane, the exhilarating Sands of Shanghai, the playful Button Fingers and, now, the tragic love song Lewis Lane. We all know that Hamilton would rather be an actor or a pop star, so maybe it's time he considered another career. As for McLaren, not content with cheating their way to a championship that they still couldn't win, they now see fit to denigrate the very sport that puts up with them by saying that they care even less about winning races than they do about ruining those of their competitors because, hey, they have the best driver.
This has got to stop. If Lewis Hamilton and McLaren-Mercedes are allowed to continue with their flagrant violations of the rules and ethics of Formula 1, they stand to destroy the sport we all love. Far from being addicted to arrogance and pumped up on pride, they should be perfectly ashamed of themselves. by Guia from planet - F1
MikeP99 LOL! What an article. I wanna buy Lewis Hamilton's greatest hits.
I also would not mind seeing Hammy in the Ferrari.
There is more of Schumacher than of Senna in that kid anyway...
No way! If you're talking arrogance. Schumacher was Mr. Arrogance. And the difference between Lewis and Schumacher is Lewis does not take his arrogance on to the race track and use i against his competitors in a "this is my track, my championship, my corner so move or get knocked off" sort of way. That is the arrogance that is not necessary in F1 and i've not seen that in Lewis. That is a diferent to thing to thinking you're the best. If lewis starts those tactics that's when i will reassess my opinion of him.
Could that be because you're daydreaming whenever you watch Lewis?
Schumacher was arrogant as, but at least he had growing number of titles to support his arrogance.
And I honestly think Lewis' break-testing behind safety car last season, criticizing and/or ignoring team strategy, even ignoring red-light warning is anything else but "This is all about me, my championship, mu glory, my greatness". He's only expressing that in more sleazy way then Schumacher did, trying to keep an image of good boy (shallow as such image is in his case), while Schumacher didn't waste time and energy on such vain exercise.
I also would not mind seeing Hammy in the Ferrari.
There is more of Schumacher than of Senna in that kid anyway...
No way! If you're talking arrogance. Schumacher was Mr. Arrogance. And the difference between Lewis and Schumacher is Lewis does not take his arrogance on to the race track and use i against his competitors in a "this is my track, my championship, my corner so move or get knocked off" sort of way. That is the arrogance that is not necessary in F1 and i've not seen that in Lewis. That is a diferent to thing to thinking you're the best. If lewis starts those tactics that's when i will reassess my opinion of him.
Could that be because you're daydreaming whenever you watch Lewis?
Schumacher was arrogant as, but at least he had growing number of titles to support his arrogance.
And I honestly think Lewis' break-testing behind safety car last season, criticizing and/or ignoring team strategy, even ignoring red-light warning is anything else but "This is all about me, my championship, mu glory, my greatness". He's only expressing that in more sleazy way then Schumacher did, trying to keep an image of good boy (shallow as such image is in his case), while Schumacher didn't waste time and energy on such vain exercise.
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