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[AKR]

The Heikki part mainly. lol I do agree with u over Robert and Alonso. Soz if i confused you.

I thought so. I think that comment might upset a few McLarenites. But camon at least I actually said that Hamilton is a better driver than Kimi and admited my reasons for not liking him over Kimi.

[EwanM]

The Heikki part mainly. lol I do agree with u over Robert and Alonso. Soz if i confused you.

I thought so. I think that comment might upset a few McLarenites. But camon at least I actually said that Hamilton is a better driver than Kimi and admited my reasons for not liking him over Kimi.

Aye that is fair enough. I'm neither a Mclarenite or part of the Tifosi. I just call it as I see it. Kinda more inclined to favour the British teams mind you... still I'm open to opinion. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree over Heikki.

[Hanwombat]

Its a good job I dont listen to your opinions then isn't it

It doesn't matter if you don't listen to my opinions Hannah as generally speaking my opinion is more right than yours.

Oh I know everyone is entitled, but anyone can decide whether to listen or not

[AKR]

The Heikki part mainly. lol I do agree with u over Robert and Alonso. Soz if i confused you.

I thought so. I think that comment might upset a few McLarenites. But camon at least I actually said that Hamilton is a better driver than Kimi and admited my reasons for not liking him over Kimi.

Aye that is fair enough. I'm neither a Mclarenite or part of the Tifosi. I just call it as I see it. Kinda more inclined to favour the British teams mind you... still I'm open to opinion. Guess we'll have to agree to disagree over Heikki.

Totally understandable.

[mooker]

Heheh, I found this on the net and it made me think of you guys.

[McLaren Fan]

Hamilton has proved that he is better than Alonso (last year) and Heikki (this year), who are/were driving equal cars with him, so he is better than them; but - and yes McLarenites turn your heads, Raikkonen is better than Hamilton. (Victory for AKR ) Ignore all my posts before this race. I have come to realise certain truths about Hamilton, but he is still my favourite driver. However, Hamilton has to start performing like he is better than Raikkonen to be worthy.

Raikkonen when he puts his mind to it is better than Hamilton, at the minute anyway, for Hamilton lacks experience and has made some gaffes. Raikkonen wasted his time at McLaren, not wanting to partake fully in development work etc. and his physical conditioning was very average for a Formula One driver. At Ferrari, he seems to have turned a corner, although does lapse into his old ways from time to time.

I actually jumped and cheered for BMW when they got the 1-2. But I still support Mclaren.

I like BMW, too, and was glad to see them get a one-two. At the same time, I was expecting a McLaren win, so was not in a mood for cheering at BMW's success.

Heheh, I found this on the net and it made me think of you guys.

[Hanwombat]

Heheh, I found this on the net and it made me think of you guys.

Haha this is great, where you find it

[darwin dali]

Can anyone remembe if Kubica stopped again after that first safety car pitstop? I was in shock for the rest of the race and cant remember
If he did then victory would have been a breeze for lewis because he was fuelled to the end.

yeah he did a two stopper

Yeah he did, thats why he was frustrated stuck behind the Toyotas when pulling away from Heidfeld.

As to Lewis. IF he makes it onto the podium i'm gonna take my hat off to him. It gonna be hard for him, your right he may run a 3 stopper, he's gotta go for that pole and if the Mclaren isn't the quickest car he gonna have to run fairly light.

I fail to see the logic here re. LH and a 3 stopper. Granted he'll be light in q3 to run for pole - heck, he could be running on fumes. Since he gets demoted 10 grid spots, he'll be starting from 11th at best. And that's outside Parc Fermé and thus, he can do whatever he likes re. fuel. Traditionally, a starting grid position around there has been the best place to try a one-stopper for a good result. It's a trade-off between too much traffic in front to take fully advantage of a lighter car but also the risk of getting stuck behind traffic after one of the three pit stops - and being too heavy on a one-stopper to actively climbing up through the ranks, but having to wait for the front runners to pit.

[EwanM]

Can anyone remembe if Kubica stopped again after that first safety car pitstop? I was in shock for the rest of the race and cant remember
If he did then victory would have been a breeze for lewis because he was fuelled to the end.

yeah he did a two stopper

Yeah he did, thats why he was frustrated stuck behind the Toyotas when pulling away from Heidfeld.

As to Lewis. IF he makes it onto the podium i'm gonna take my hat off to him. It gonna be hard for him, your right he may run a 3 stopper, he's gotta go for that pole and if the Mclaren isn't the quickest car he gonna have to run fairly light.

I fail to see the logic here re. LH and a 3 stopper. Granted he'll be light in q3 to run for pole - heck, he could be running on fumes. Since he gets demoted 10 grid spots, he'll be starting from 11th at best. And that's outside Parc Fermé and thus, he can do whatever he likes re. fuel. Traditionally, a starting grid position around there has been the best place to try a one-stopper for a good result. It's a trade-off between too much traffic in front to take fully advantage of a lighter car but also the risk of getting stuck behind traffic after one of the three pit stops - and being too heavy on a one-stopper to actively climbing up through the ranks, but having to wait for the front runners to pit.

Ah-ha! Forgot he'd be 11th, keep thinking he'd be 10th. So surely he be allowed to do that? Or is there any rules against him doing that?

[texasmr2]

I dont think there is because it's all about position and then the grid demotion. Just think how depressing it would be for Hammy if he qualified again 6/10's quicker than second place and then get's busted down to 11th!

Why do we have to wait 2 week's for another race???

[Denthúl]

Can anyone remembe if Kubica stopped again after that first safety car pitstop? I was in shock for the rest of the race and cant remember
If he did then victory would have been a breeze for lewis because he was fuelled to the end.

yeah he did a two stopper

Yeah he did, thats why he was frustrated stuck behind the Toyotas when pulling away from Heidfeld.

As to Lewis. IF he makes it onto the podium i'm gonna take my hat off to him. It gonna be hard for him, your right he may run a 3 stopper, he's gotta go for that pole and if the Mclaren isn't the quickest car he gonna have to run fairly light.

I fail to see the logic here re. LH and a 3 stopper. Granted he'll be light in q3 to run for pole - heck, he could be running on fumes. Since he gets demoted 10 grid spots, he'll be starting from 11th at best. [b]And that's outside Parc Fermé and thus, he can do whatever he likes re. fuel.]/b] Traditionally, a starting grid position around there has been the best place to try a one-stopper for a good result. It's a trade-off between too much traffic in front to take fully advantage of a lighter car but also the risk of getting stuck behind traffic after one of the three pit stops - and being too heavy on a one-stopper to actively climbing up through the ranks, but having to wait for the front runners to pit.

DD, if he qualifies on a light fuel load in Q3 and takes pole, he can't change that fuel load despite being dropped outside the top ten...

[darwin dali]

You know that for sure? That would change things I suppose.

[Denthúl]

Yes. The rules state that cars cannot be refuelled once Q3 has started. Seeing as Lewis would be participating in Q3, he'd be subject to that rule, so fuelling his car light enough to take pole wouldn't be a bad idea as starting from 11th on the grid and really needing to pass a lot of cars in a short space of time is risky. And if he gets held up by a heavier car, such as a Toyota or Red Bull, he'll struggle to make his strategy work at all. :/

[darwin dali]

Yes. The rules state that cars cannot be refuelled once Q3 has started. Seeing as Lewis would be participating in Q3, he'd be subject to that rule, so fuelling his car light enough to take pole wouldn't be a bad idea as starting from 11th on the grid and really needing to pass a lot of cars in a short space of time is risky. And if he gets held up by a heavier car, such as a Toyota or Red Bull, he'll struggle to make his strategy work at all. :/

Your reasoning about fueling LH's car is confusing. What are you saying here? He should or he shouldn't go heavy? Because the holding up part applies to him if he's light and at Magny Cours it is difficult to pass.

[Denthúl]

I'm saying he should go heavy, because I think there's more chance of him getting into a decent position that way. As long as he has a good stint on a heavy load, he should be able to get fourth, possibly a podium with a few retirements and some good luck, but I don't think either strategy would see him win unless a series of events played into his hands like at Monaco.