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[austin62]

Well another rumor just come up about Alonso ,well, well he is not sure about all that Ferrari deal at 2010 and entire speculation about his contract with red car ,I think Kubica is doing something at the background i mean background talk with ferrari ,as many people know Kubica speaks very well italian and it is rising star at the moment ,if he continue to be that good like it shows so far ,I would say that he might be on the HOT seat with Ferrari very soon so Alonso might end up in BMW team ? ironic is in it ?

[McLaren Fan]

...and as for the dissin of Kimi why is it that Ferrari can get good pace if he is so crap at developing a car?

Because Raikkonen's attitude has improved since he came to McLaren.

2005 McLaren won ten races.... not so good? maybe you werent aware and only followed F1 in 2006 after Alonso took his first title in 05

Alonso was lucky the McLaren broke down so often.

You´re right but, How far is it form Mclaren and Ferrari nowadasys? And last year? think last year was the oposite. Mclares was far ahead from ferrari.

The consequences of the spy scandal and McLaren's lack of two experienced drivers have played their part.

[f1ea]

Because Raikkonen's attitude has improved since he came to McLaren.

Also more experience. Plus Ferrari have Michael giving in some input as well... i think its more hype than anything, but anyway even if its a small.. its somehting...

Alonso was lucky the McLaren broke down so often.

And also lucky Renault was able to quickly take full advantage of the tyre wars. Which says a lot about Renault and their personnel.
BUT that's the 'luck' you need to win championships. Because Mclaren could have also capitalised when they got that chance, but apparently they were caught off guard; cause you can't really say Mclaren was that bad in 05... they were just bettered by Renault.

'06 that's another story Mclaren was terrible. And it was not just the car breaking down...

[bud]

'06 that's another story Mclaren was terrible. And it was not just the car breaking down...

though the MP4-21 was not a race winner it was hardly terrible! podium spots poles and 3rd in the championship!
But lIke McLaren fan had previously said it was designed with its strong points being on rear suspension for the one tyre rule which was a late change in the development stage and to quote McLaren fan again "they were caught off guard"
Had Ferrari not bought the Redbull tyre vote the MP4-21 would have definately been a race winner and possibly title winner!

[f1ea]

though the MP4-21 was not a race winner it was hardly terrible! podium spots poles and 3rd in the championship!

don't get me wrong. That's why i said it was more than just the car breaking down... it was one of those seasons were nothing goes your way. Of course they car was strong... but the rest around it was not ideal; and it ended up being a dissapointing season.

"they were caught off guard"

That's what i said

[texasmr2]

It would be a very powerful team but the friendship would end as soon as Robert went faster. Which would happen I reckon.

YEP!!

[austin62]

and what do you think Alonso helped Kubica ?

[austin62]

welL Kubica won and Alonso helped him great race bravo Robert