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By racechick
#46250
I thought he might pull it off the way he operates but whats he hopoe to achieve. Lots of people will still not do business with him and the americans are`on about not letting the FIA represent them anymore. Hope other couyntries follow suit!!!
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By EwanM
#46252
oh dear.
At least Sir jackie Stewart is 100 pounds richer. Kinda expected that. That's the joke organisation F1is under, im actually happy Eccelstone and co have so much influence.
im bk btw :D
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By McLaren Fan
#46253
From autosport.com:


Mosley wins confidence vote in Paris

Tuesday, June 3rd 2008, 10:55 GMT

FIA president Max Mosley has won the vote of confidence at today's General Assembly meeting in Paris.

Following a vote of delegates, Mosley won the majority of support for him to continue in his role.

An FIA press release confirmed that Mosley had won by 103 votes to 55 votes in the meeting. There were seven abstentions and four invalid votes during the secret ballot.

Mosley is not expected to make any comment about his vote of confidence until after the conclusion of the privacy action that he has taken against the News of the World.

Full statement from the FIA:

During the Extraordinary General Assembly (EGA) held in Paris today, the FIA Member Clubs voted on a motion of confidence in the FIA President.

The FIA membership voted as follows:

For the motion: 103
Against the motion: 55
Abstentions: 7
Invalid votes 4

Voting in the EGA was made by secret ballot. Votes were counted in private by the FIA legal department in the presence of four scrutineers, selected by the EGA from a list of Delegates proposed by the Chairman of the meeting (the President of the FIA Senate).

The entire voting procedure was supervised by an external Huissier de Justice (French state-appointed public witness).

Paris, 3 June, 2008


Before Ecclestone said anything, I thought that Mosley would probably have stayed. After Ecclestone's intervention, I thought a few people might change their positions. Clearly not. In fact, Mosley won the vote of confidence by some distance. The decision is a scandal, but what can you do. It will be interesting to see how things pan out over the next year or so. Many people are still refusing to associate with him and the FIA will be run through Mosley's deputies! :roll:
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By Kiwi_Chris
#46255
Further proof that the sport is run by nothing more than a 'old boys club'
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By McLaren Fan
#46256
From autosport.com:

Paris vote decisive for FIA future too

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, June 3rd 2008, 09:01 GMT

The FIA's decision today on the future of president Max Mosley is not just about the fate of its incumbent leader but will be decisive for the future of motor racing itself, claims one of the governing body's leading figures.

As FIA General Assembly members gathered in Paris this morning for the meeting that will decide if Mosley continues in his present role, Confederation of Australian Motor Sport chief Gary Connelly made it clear exactly what was at stake today.

"This is a very important day for motorsport," said Connelly outside the French Automobile Club in Paris, where the meeting is taking place.

"This isn't just about the future of one person; this is about the future of a whole organisation with more than 100 years of history. So I think that people are going to take much note of that today, they are going to listen to all sides of the argument, and I'm sure they'll be many sides of the argument."

Connelly said he remained open about the possible outcome of the vote, and felt the importance of it meant it was vital people did not rush to make a judgement.

"Look, I think there are some strong views on both sides and I think what we have got to do is reflect on the direction of the FIA, we have got to look at its past and we have got to look at its future.

"So we are going here today to hear what both sides have got to say about that," he said.

Other FIA figures said that they were already clear about what side they were voting for.

Robert Darbelnet, president of the American Automobile Association, indicated he would be voting against Mosley. "Absolutely," he said. "Without a doubt..."

Mosley himself avoided meeting the press, who had gathered outside the front entrance of the club, and instead used a back door.

It is expected that a series of speeches will be made in the FIA meeting before a secret ballot is taken on whether Mosley should continue.


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Dutch body unhappy about vote outcome

By Simon Strang and Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, June 3rd 2008, 12:01 GMT

Dutch motoring body president Guido Van Woerkom said he was unhappy but not surprised about the outcome of today's confidence vote against FIA president Max Mosley.

"I am not quite surprised but I am not happy," said ANWB's Van Woerkom after Mosley got the support to stay at the helm of the governing body.

"I voted against. I wrote a letter with 34 other, bigger clubs, to ask Max to step down by at least November 2008, but the outcome is different."

Van Woerkom believes Mosley benefited from the votes of smaller clubs, but he reckons the bigger bodies were against him.

"Well, we've known Max for a long time. He is always pushing the arguments against him away and he is promoting his own arguments," he added.

"And he has a lot of contacts with the smaller clubs and what we have seen in the general assembly is that more or less the smaller clubs are in favour.

"But when you look to the bigger clubs, the AAA (USA), the triple A in Australia, the JAF (Japan) of 70 million members, the ADAC in Germany, the NWB in the Netherlands, they all are against. So when you count the members behind the members then I don't think he will succeed."

Van Woerkom suggested some clubs are now likely to withdawn all involvement with the FIA, following ADAC's example.

"Yes, well, I am now away to have a lunch with those clubs and maybe that is the outcome of that discussion," he said.

Van Woerkom also said that it was normal that the clubs getting money from the FIA voted in favour of Mosley, although he denied there was corruption involved.

"It is more or less difficult to say, but there is a lot of money going around and if you get a small piece of that bread it can be very nice to eat," Van Woerkom said.

"Corrupt is not the way, I won't say it. But when you look at the McLaren fine, that is a lot of money, and when you get something from that you are more or less in favour of the people giving you that bread.

"So that's normal in life, although in some countries that's normal."


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German body leaves FIA working groups

By Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, June 3rd 2008, 11:43 GMT

Germany's national motoring body, ADAC, has been the first major organisation to react to Max Mosley's victory in today's confidence vote, saying they regret the result.

ADAC had been one of the bodies who had asked Mosley to reconsider his position as head of the FIA following revelations about his private life.

The German body, which claims to be the largest Automobile club in Europe, said on Tuesday that it was withdrawing all involvement with the FIA.

The ADAC said it will continue with that policy as long as Mosley stays as president of the governing body.

"With regret and incomprehension, the ADAC has learned from the decision by the General Assembly of the FIA in Paris to confirm Max Mosley in his function as president of the FIA," the ADAC said in a statement.

"For Europe's largest motoring club, this is a reason to put down all its functions and the involvement in the global organisation of motoring clubs with immediate effect and to step down from the globally active FIA working groups.

"The ADAC will stick to this attitude as long as Max Mosley will be on duty as president of the FIA.

"After the affair became public on March 30, 2008, the ADAC insistently called upon Mosley in a personal letter to step down in order to avoid any harm being done to the FIA and its institutions. This was done in close co-operation with other major motoring clubs within this global organisation.

"The service portfolio for ADAC members will by no means be affected by the decision now taken. This is being ensured by a closely-knit worldwide network that the ADAC has already established for a long time and that is working very effectively.

"The services will be carried out without any compromises by its own companies as well as by European and global organisations in which the club is participating."
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By Kiwi_Chris
#46258
so after the largest motoring groups in the world pull out of working groups in protest doesnt that leave Max with a bit of a hollow victory, i mean he is now the President of what sounds like what will become a very crippled FIA
GET THE HINTS MOSLEY
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By EwanM
#46259
From autosport.com:


Mosley wins confidence vote in Paris

Tuesday, June 3rd 2008, 10:55 GMT

FIA president Max Mosley has won the vote of confidence at today's General Assembly meeting in Paris.

Following a vote of delegates, Mosley won the majority of support for him to continue in his role.

An FIA press release confirmed that Mosley had won by 103 votes to 55 votes in the meeting. There were seven abstentions and four invalid votes during the secret ballot.

Mosley is not expected to make any comment about his vote of confidence until after the conclusion of the privacy action that he has taken against the News of the World.

Full statement from the FIA:

During the Extraordinary General Assembly (EGA) held in Paris today, the FIA Member Clubs voted on a motion of confidence in the FIA President.

The FIA membership voted as follows:

For the motion: 103
Against the motion: 55
Abstentions: 7
Invalid votes 4

Voting in the EGA was made by secret ballot. Votes were counted in private by the FIA legal department in the presence of four scrutineers, selected by the EGA from a list of Delegates proposed by the Chairman of the meeting (the President of the FIA Senate).

The entire voting procedure was supervised by an external Huissier de Justice (French state-appointed public witness).

Paris, 3 June, 2008


Before Ecclestone said anything, I thought that Mosley would probably have stayed. After Ecclestone's intervention, I thought a few people might change their positions. Clearly not. In fact, Mosley won the vote of confidence by some distance. The decision is a scandal, but what can you do. It will be interesting to see how things pan out over the next year or so. Many people are still refusing to associate with him and the FIA will be run through Mosley's deputies! :roll:



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67959

Dutch body unhappy about vote outcome

By Simon Strang and Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, June 3rd 2008, 12:01 GMT


Dutch motoring body president Guido Van Woerkom said he was unhappy but not surprised about the outcome of today's confidence vote against FIA president Max Mosley.

"I am not quite surprised but I am not happy," said ANWB's Van Woerkom after Mosley got the support to stay at the helm of the governing body.

"I voted against. I wrote a letter with 34 other, bigger clubs, to ask Max to step down by at least November 2008, but the outcome is different."

Van Woerkom believes Mosley benefited from the votes of smaller clubs, but he reckons the bigger bodies were against him.

"Well, we've known Max for a long time. He is always pushing the arguments against him away and he is promoting his own arguments," he added.

"And he has a lot of contacts with the smaller clubs and what we have seen in the general assembly is that more or less the smaller clubs are in favour.

"But when you look to the bigger clubs, the AAA (USA), the triple A in Australia, the JAF (Japan) of 70 million members, the ADAC in Germany, the NWB in the Netherlands, they all are against. So when you count the members behind the members then I don't think he will succeed."

Van Woerkom suggested some clubs are now likely to withdawn all involvement with the FIA, following ADAC's example.

"Yes, well, I am now away to have a lunch with those clubs and maybe that is the outcome of that discussion," he said.

Van Woerkom also said that it was normal that the clubs getting money from the FIA voted in favour of Mosley, although he denied there was corruption involved.

"It is more or less difficult to say, but there is a lot of money going around and if you get a small piece of that bread it can be very nice to eat," Van Woerkom said.

"Corrupt is not the way, I won't say it. But when you look at the McLaren fine, that is a lot of money, and when you get something from that you are more or less in favour of the people giving you that bread.

"So that's normal in life, although in some countries that's normal."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67958

German body leaves FIA working groups

By Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, June 3rd 2008, 11:43 GMT


Germany's national motoring body, ADAC, has been the first major organisation to react to Max Mosley's victory in today's confidence vote, saying they regret the result.

ADAC had been one of the bodies who had asked Mosley to reconsider his position as head of the FIA following revelations about his private life.

The German body, which claims to be the largest Automobile club in Europe, said on Tuesday that it was withdrawing all involvement with the FIA.

The ADAC said it will continue with that policy as long as Mosley stays as president of the governing body.

"With regret and incomprehension, the ADAC has learned from the decision by the General Assembly of the FIA in Paris to confirm Max Mosley in his function as president of the FIA," the ADAC said in a statement.

"For Europe's largest motoring club, this is a reason to put down all its functions and the involvement in the global organisation of motoring clubs with immediate effect and to step down from the globally active FIA working groups.

"The ADAC will stick to this attitude as long as Max Mosley will be on duty as president of the FIA.

"After the affair became public on March 30, 2008, the ADAC insistently called upon Mosley in a personal letter to step down in order to avoid any harm being done to the FIA and its institutions. This was done in close co-operation with other major motoring clubs within this global organisation.

"The service portfolio for ADAC members will by no means be affected by the decision now taken. This is being ensured by a closely-knit worldwide network that the ADAC has already established for a long time and that is working very effectively.

"The services will be carried out without any compromises by its own companies as well as by European and global organisations in which the club is participating."


This is gonna run and run. Germany and the Netherlands have done the right thing. Im annoyed with the MSA though.
I'm waiting on the likes of the US to pull out to. If the bodies fail to cooperate well Max is surely compromised?
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By bud
#46263
Karma's a bitch Max, you may have won the vote from your groveling, blackmailing and lies but as you can see by Deutschlands stance you havent won back how it once was, nor have you won the confidence of the major players with the USA sure to follow. You may still be president but of what??

break away series anyone??? :twisted:
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By EwanM
#46264
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=42853 - gd on you Damon!

Former world champion and British Racing Drivers' Club president Damon Hill has expressed dismay at the FIA's vote of confidence in Max Mosley – and suggested it could harm his efforts to protect the future of the British Grand Prix.

The FIA general assembly voted in support of Mosley by a comfortable margin of 103 to 55 in Paris today.

But with Mosley's critics amongst the automobile clubs now considering their positions, Hill fears the vote will ultimately weaken the governing body.

"I shouldn't be amazed or astonished, but I am," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"It is incredible how he manages to pull through these difficult situations and prevail.

"It shows how determined he is to stay in that seat.

"The problem with it is that the seat and the building around him is disintegrating, and that's the worry.

"We've already heard noises from large automobile bodies and from the motor manufacturers that they're not happy he's staying.

"It's really gone in the face of all those opinions.

"I think you can only do that for so long before eventually people say 'that's enough, we're not playing any more.'"

In his BRDC role, Hill is at the forefront of Silverstone's negotiations over the British GP's future.

Securing more government support could be vital to the race's survival, and Hill is concerned that retaining Mosley as world motorsport's figurehead could be unhelpful in that endeavour.

"From my perspective, I'm trying to work with the BRDC and Silverstone to protect the British Grand Prix," he said.

"We really need an organisation like the FIA to help us protect our position so that we can have reasonable terms from the commercial rights holders.

"It's very difficult, when you have a president who is as controversial as Max is, to argue the case for funding for Formula 1 from the government if we need to.
"I think not taking on board the general political atmosphere is sometimes a strength, but in this case it seems to be really inconsiderate for the sport.

"Even Bernie Ecclestone has admitted that Max has pushed the boundaries to an extreme here."



Also you're right bud! - http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42854

have intimated that they will no longer work with the organisation now that Mosley has won today's vote of confidence.


Although many leading automobile organisations had openly called on Mosley to stand down, he won the vote by a commanding 103 to 55 margin.


The German governing body the ADAC and its American counterpart the AAA have reacted angrily to the verdict.


AAA president Robert Darbelnet raised the possibility of a breakaway group being established.




"We should not rush to judgement on this," he told reporters in Paris.


[i][i]"But one of the potential ramifications is the division or a split way from the organisation that might in fact provide an opportunity for like-minded clubs to find a representative body in a different form."[/i][/i]


ADAC has already announced that it will suspend its active involvement in the FIA.


"ADAC views with regret and incredulity, the FIA general assembly's decision in Paris confirming Max Mosley in office as FIA president," the US body said in a statement.


"This is a reason for Europe's largest automobile club to let its functions and cooperation in FIA working groups rest at world level.


"ADAC will stay with its decision as long as Max Mosley holds the top FIA office as president."


The FIA oversees both worldwide motorsport and world motoring, with particular responsibility for safety and Formula 1's regulations.


Although some of the largest FIA organisations were among the most vocal critics of Mosley and are believed to have voted against him, the FIA's strict one member, one vote system meant that smaller bodies representing fewer members had equal influence.


Former Minardi team owner Paul Stoddart – a long-time foe of Mosley – believes a breakaway is now inevitable.


"It's a sad day for world motorsport," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.


"If the 103 countries [who voted in Mosley's favour] were read out, I guarantee you wouldn't recognise 99 percent of them, with a few notable exceptions.


"I think it's the beginning of the end of the FIA as we know it.


"I suspect we will now see a massive breakaway – the 50-odd that voted against Mosley represent some 80 percent of the numbers of the worldwide motoring groups of the big countries that we all know and respect.


"We will now see the demise of the FIA because [Mosley] cannot perform his job."


But the Motor Sports Association, the organisation in charge of British racing, says it will respect the outcome of the vote.


"The Motor Sports Association respects the decision of the FIA General Assembly concerning President Mosley and considers that it is now time to move on and for the sport to pull together," said MSA chief executive Colin Hilton.


"The Motor Sports Association looks forward to continuing to work constructively as an important member of the FIA in the future."
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By f1usa
#46265
Karma's a bitch Max, you may have won the vote from your groveling, blackmailing and lies but as you can see by Deutschlands stance you havent won back how it once was, nor have you won the confiedence of the major players with the USA sure to follow. You may still be president but of what??

break away series anyone??? :twisted:

You could get get rid of both Max and Bernie by forming a break-away series, taking your major sponsors with you.
By Mikep99
#46266
I was hoping he would get the arse, but............. :shock:

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