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#443733
He ruined McLaren.
By rob91
#443734
He ruined McLaren.


Are you trolling or just stupid? McLaren's current problems in F1 have got nothing to do with Ron Dennis since he hasn't run the F1 team for the last nearly 9 years. Not to mention the vast majority of their successes were with him in charge, if anything they need him back.
#443735
He ruined McLaren.


Are you trolling or just stupid? McLaren's current problems in F1 have got nothing to do with Ron Dennis since he hasn't run the F1 team for the last nearly 9 years. Not to mention the vast majority of their successes were with him in charge, if anything they need him back.

Not quite accurate, Dennis did come back in 2014 after Martin Whitmarsh was ousted from McLaren, so Dennis did oversee the recent Honda years before himself being ousted. That said, McLaren has had a host of issues that have caused their fall from grace, not directly related to any specific team principle.
#443740
He ruined McLaren.


Are you trolling or just stupid? McLaren's current problems in F1 have got nothing to do with Ron Dennis since he hasn't run the F1 team for the last nearly 9 years. Not to mention the vast majority of their successes were with him in charge, if anything they need him back.


Hardly trolling and not stupid!

He has single handedly ruined a once great F1 team. The facts speak for themselves.

- Squandered early Senna/Prost success with only 1 wcc in the last 26 years.

- Invented dual design team process which produced a dud car routinely every 2 years.

- Drove away team sponsors. No lead sponsor to this day costing up to $30M a season.

- Stole IP from competitor, lied about it to the FIA and cost his company a $100M fine.

- Caused a fracture within his team by supporting favorite driver and openly having his team racing against his 2xwdc driver.

- Cost team 2007 wdc and wcc due to abysmal driver mismanagement and finally with an incompetent strategy bungle at China 2007.

- Sacrificed poor Davey Ryan to protect his lying star driver.

- Drove away Mercedes engines due to IP and lying scandals.

- Lost his star driver due to a 'strongarm' salary negotiation strategy.

- Signed doomed deal with Honda and then forced them to supply engines long before they were ready for racing.

- Threw a knife in the back of long term friend and team co-owner Mansour Ojjeh with botched 2016 boardroom takeover plot financed with Chinese money.

- And the once great McLaren hasn't won a single race since 2012 after Dennis let Whitmarsh go and he took the reins.
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#443741
Oh, reading all this re-hash gets me in a sour mood. :banghead::censored::thumbdown: I sure hope he's not one of those reappearing F1 zombies :rolleyes::nono:
#443742
Ferrari is fastest in one lap but slowed over race distance by the 'Mercedes' fuel economy regs.
Pecking order over fuel economy limited race distance is Mercedes - Red Bull - Ferrari according to Sky.

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#443743
Ferrari is fastest in one lap but slowed over race distance by the 'Mercedes' fuel economy regs.
Pecking order over fuel economy limited race distance is Mercedes - Red Bull - Ferrari according to Sky.

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I thought the oil burning will be stopped for 2018 and Merc just had an exemption for last year's engines?
#443744
The oil burning will be better regulated but the fuel consumption rules are still in place. Merc seems to have maintained a fuel economy advantage. Wolff fought to have the fuel limits maintained, all the other teams wanted them lifted for 2018 so that there could have been some real racing. But again in 2018 we will have periods of the race that will be monotonous lap after lap of fuel conservation.

Who knows now that the oil is better controlled maybe Merc are augmenting fuel this season by burning brake fluid ??!

https://www.formula1.com/en/championshi ... lling.html

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13425 ... s-for-2018
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#443745
The merc w09 though might be a tire muncher:

"But having not run the fastest hypersoft tyre all week, and having suffered some blistering on the soft compound, Valtteri Bottas says that there remain some question marks about its performance in certain circumstances.

"We got the medium and the hard tyres to work quite well I think," said the Finn.

"We still have issues with blistering on the softer compounds.

"Hopefully it will be different in Melbourne, but on the new track surface here in Barcelona we had some difficulties."
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13476 ... yre-doubts
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#443759
Hopefully, that 3.5-second improvement in testing will translate into a better performance for McLaren once we go racing. It will be nice to see such a historic racing marque back fighting for podiums. But, anyone that has followed F1 on a more than casual basis knows that testing times mean next to nothing, once we go racing in anger, it's often very different.

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