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By sagi58
#443194
And, it continues... in the fourth shot, Verstappen's wheels seem to be "cradling" Kimi's read tire...
Vettel? Still has room, as his wheels seem to be clear of Verstappen's!!

Fourth shot...
4 - fourth shot.JPG
by this fifth frame, Vettel's rear tires look like they are ahead of Verstappen's front tires...

Fifth shot...
5 - fifth shot.JPG
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By sagi58
#443195
In this sixth frame, is where Verstappen's front wheel makes contact with Kimi's rear tire,
sending him into spin...

Sixth shot...
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... and Kimi spins into Vettel

Seventh shot...
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Take a look at the bottom of each picture, you'll notice the time span is ONE second.
That's all it took for the titles to be decided. Thanks to a young hothead that seems
not to take responsibility for his actions, blaming experienced drivers instead.

That may not be the popular consensus; but, it is what it is!
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By sagi58
#443196
darwin dali wrote:Yeah, Lollobrigida simply gone - poof!
:rofl:

Poverina!!
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By overboost
#443197
^ To sum up what happened at Singapore, Maxie ran into Kimi.
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By sagi58
#443198
overboost wrote:^ To sum up what happened at Singapore, Maxie ran into Kimi.
And, NOT because Vettel pushed him into doing it!!
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By overboost
#443199
Vettel might have scared him into making his mistake.
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By overboost
#443200
sagi58 wrote:
darwin dali wrote:Yeah, Lollobrigida simply gone - poof!
:rofl:

Poverina!!
I think Vettel's Gina has a Mad Max sort of look in that pic.
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By sagi58
#443201
overboost wrote:
sagi58 wrote:
darwin dali wrote:Yeah, Lollobrigida simply gone - poof!
:rofl:

Poverina!!
I think Vettel's Gina has a Mad Max sort of look in that pic.
Mad Max Verstappen, ya mean?? :thumbup:
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By myownalias
#443203
We can take screenshots of various parts of the clip to support our positions, look here, a few frames later and we see this; which shows Vettel clearly squeezing Verstappen into Raikkonen.
vettel-verstappen-raikkonen-crash-singapore-2017.jpg
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By Hamezi
#443205
Yep!

Stand by my original post. Great pity it happened though. I guess we could argue over blame but I believe Vettel definitely contributed to his own DNF
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By overboost
#443207
Verstappen has a responsibility not to run into Raikkonen. That was quite simply poor driving on his part. As we can all see in the pictures is that Vettel never came into contact with Verstappen.
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By sagi58
#443210
myownalias wrote:We can take screenshots of various parts of the clip to support our positions, look here, a few frames later and we see this; which shows Vettel clearly squeezing Verstappen into Raikkonen.
vettel-verstappen-raikkonen-crash-singapore-2017.jpg
OR -- it "clearly" shows Verstappen refusing to accept there was NO room for him to squeeze through between the two Ferraris.
Considering how many times he has ALREADY pulled this kind of move on various drivers, thusfar in his career, I would suggest that's what he was doing AGAIN!
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By sagi58
#443211
Hamezi wrote:Yep!

Stand by my original post. Great pity it happened though. I guess we could argue over blame but I believe Vettel definitely contributed to his own DNF
And you have the right to your opinion!
He may have contributed; but, he was NOT at fault.
In my opinion, that is...
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By myownalias
#443212
It was a racing incident and the stewards got it right, however, to squarely blame Verstappen is just silly, there was a definite pincer movement going on by the Ferrari's. Verstappen was occupying the space where Vettel wanted to be, if Verstappen had steer right to avoid contact with Raikkonen, he would have hit Vettel. Verstappen was committed, his options were limited.

It was a completely unnecessary move by Vettel, Hamilton was 2 to 3 car lengths behind, yet Vettel felt the need to dive across the track putting himself in a compromising position.

Do I believe Vettel made a conscious decision to crowd Verstappen (and by default, Raikkonen), NO! I think it was an error of judgment that has cost him, dear! RACING INCIDENT!
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By sagi58
#443215
We'll have to agree to disagree, as I feel it's just as silly to put the blame squarely on Vettel's shoulders.
I'm not going to suggest that I know what Vettel's mindset was; but, at the end of the day, he had the most
to lose, thus he defend his position as he saw fit; whereas Verstappen had the least to lose and seemed
intent on spoiling the party. Unfortunately, all three of them lost out...

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