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[nikon133]

Well Mclaren fan you must be very disappointed that Lewis drives for McLaren

No, not at all. I want the best drivers at the team, and I feel in Hamilton and Kovalainen that McLaren will have the best driver line-up in a season or two when they both gain a little more experience.

Lewis trying to jump ship Ahhh is that why you dislike him?? Ive hardly given that a thought. You say the ron /lewis father/ son relationship makes you cringe yet you dont like it when he acts for himself(or rateher his manager does) All drivers wheeler deal and change teams. At some point Lewis had to step outside of his role of Ron's boy. Non of the worlds great talents are owned. I hope he stays at McLaren, I think it the best place for him but its very rare a driver does that. I doubt he was serious about williams, his manager was dealing...and it worked, Lewis was in the McLaren and wowing the world. McLaren are not naive either.

Sorry, can't agree. Let me give you the facts of what happened. In 2005, Hamilton demanded he get a race seat in a McLaren for 2006. McLaren told him he was to do another year in GP2 to gain experience so he would be fully ready for Formula One in 2007. To me, that seems a fair enough decision from Hamilton's benefactors and experts in the sport, but Hamilton and his da were not happy. So, they went off talking to teams behind McLaren's back. In the end, Hamilton's da's plan did not work, because although Williams were prepared to take Hamilton, BMW were not. Had BMW been prepared to sign him, Hamilton would have gone straight to Williams, and shafted McLaren good and proper.

Hamilton's talent is not owned, but he owes McLaren, Ron Dennis in particular, a hell of a lot. McLaren took Hamilton when his father was working two jobs to pay for his racing. Had McLaren not taken Hamilton, God only knows where he would be.

So, Anna, do you feel that going in the huff and negotiating behind McLaren's back was the right thing to do in that situation?

It seems to me daddy got tired of working two jobs and wanted his investment to start paying back ASAP.

There ya go. GREED.

[nikon133]

who was talking about hype? not me....not you guys! read again sparky

Not sure what your on about mateee.

thats obvious

read again "one of the main reasons i dont like the boy"

his nurtured rise in Motorsport is what you were referring to no? and why you agreed with DD that Kubica doing it the hard way to get into F1 earns him more respect in the mikep book of wisdom

again i ask what you think of Nico Rosberg then who had a similar nurtured rise into F1
but he didnt get a drive for a top team straight away so in effect youre damning Lewis Hamilton for driving in a winning car, which he has won in.

good point of view you have there

Thanks mate

Again tell me who has the most HYPE - Hammy or Nico ? this will answer your question.
They are both spoilt & both would not get my respect as much as a Kubica would even if they acheive more ?

All Hammy has shown me is that he is a good driver in a good team who demands respect.
But I must say I will give it to him, he is very talented being able to do it all with a silver spoon up his arse

Just look at his demeanor on the podium Manaco 2007

Doing all he can to make FA feels at home with McLaren, eh?

But seriously... did he really think he could actually overtake FA on cursed Monaco street even if he was given green light to go for it..?

[KyrosV]

If I remember rightly, Alonso was blitzing LH around Monaco last year, until the last couple of laps he was crusing with LH behind him to save the engines. Arogant as LH is, he wanted to steal that win from him... what a " "

[deMuRe]

Im sure Hamilton can tweak if its needed but his style is FAST. Faster than Heikki at the moment so maybe doing a better job with the tyres would not be the better job to do to win the race.
You say Lewis isnt focused well I think he is and he certainly doesnt complain. You cant compare eras but since you did I'll reply. I think ,like you ,that Senna was the best but if you are talking about complaining -do you remember Senna complaining at that race where he wanted pole to be put on the other side of the track?? Can you imagine the outcry if Lewis pulled that stunt. And if you're compararing him to Senna then Senna d!cked around a lot off the track- ask Gerhard Berger...didnt affect his driving.

DD they are all young mwn with sausages Havent seen Lewis'going any wilder with the sausage than any of the others !

I'm not completely sure I'd agree that Hamilton is faster than Kovalainen, in fact, when you take into account pit strategies, Kovalainen is just as, if not more, fast than Hamilton. That is a pretty shocking statistic when one considers Hamilton is touted as the next best thing, and that Kovalainen is new to McLaren's setup.

I didn't say Hamilton was not focused, although he is clearly enjoying the high life and getting increasingly up his own arse. I notice you didn't try to defend Hamilton against wanting to jump ship to Williams. Why? Because there is no defence. All this crap about Dennis and Hamilton having a father and son relationship makes me cringe. I didn't see Hamilton even giving Dennis a blind bit of consideration when he was trying to negotiate his move from the team. Basically, the attitude was, "Thanks for giving me the best of everything, Ron; your time, money, training, and advice for the last ten years, but I'm going to disappear now to Williams." It would be rather funny if he did, for he'd be somewhere in the midfield struggling to beat Rosberg.

Your parallels with Senna are, simply, outrageous, and hopelessly incongruous. As you well know, Senna had perfect reason to complain, given that Balestre, as he admitted soon after Senna's death, stepped in on numerous occasions to favour his compatriot, Prost. Nothing of the sort is going on with Hamilton. McLaren have given him everything and did their utmost to ready him for Formula One, but Hamilton has chosen and continues to chose to throw it back in the team's face. It takes more than some cheap sound bites from his PR training - which McLaren also paid for, by the way - to convince me about his goodly character.

It seems that Dennis has forgiven him about the Williams episode, and that's fine. Hamilton should now shut his trap, appreciate the great people he has behind him, and allow them to make the necessary and informed decisions about how McLaren is run, or at the very least not vent his heavily biased and erroneous views in public. It's incredibly inappreciative and unprofessional.

My god, I'm agreeing with McLaren Fan...

[deMuRe]

I think Webber will have a strong race, an Adrian Newey chassis is going to boogie around that tight street circuit.

[7UpJordan]

Williams will do well, always gone strong the past few years at Monaco and the new aero package is looking strong.

[racechick]

If I remember rightly, Alonso was blitzing LH around Monaco last year, until the last couple of laps he was crusing with LH behind him to save the engines. Arogant as LH is, he wanted to steal that win from him... what a " "

Other way round Lewis was faster by a considerable anount all weekend.

[8-ball]

That doesn't matter Alonso qualified ahead and so for the benefit team should have won. Lewis would not have been able to pass him anyway on the Monaco track so why waste the time and the engine in attempting it?

[McLaren Fan]

If I remember rightly, Alonso was blitzing LH around Monaco last year, until the last couple of laps he was crusing with LH behind him to save the engines. Arogant as LH is, he wanted to steal that win from him... what a " "

Other way round Lewis was faster by a considerable anount all weekend.

Tripe. Hamilton's first stint was absolutely pathetic, so he allowed Alonso build up a lead strong enough that was strong enough to allow him to lead comfortably after the first round of pit stops. Had Hamilton have kept Alonso honest in that first stint, he may have won the race. Martin Brundle as well as other pundits agree with that. Hamilton failed to nail Alonso by the final round of pit stops, and the race was called off, so as to secure the one-two finish. The end. There was no hidden agenda. That has been McLaren's policy at Monaco since Ron Dennis took over the team, and that's how it should stay. McLaren are better qualified than anybody else to decide what happens in a Monaco Grand Prix given that the team have by far the most number of wins around the track. Get over yourself, RC. It's fine you support Hamilton, it's your choice and he's a skilled young driver, but your "love fest" with him and being blind to the truth is getting slightly embarrassing.

[Rivelution]

Get over yourself, RC. It's fine you support Hamilton, it's your choice and he's a skilled young driver, but your "love fest" with him and being blind to the truth is getting slightly embarrassing.

...and annoying.

[racechick]

If I remember rightly, Alonso was blitzing LH around Monaco last year, until the last couple of laps he was crusing with LH behind him to save the engines. Arogant as LH is, he wanted to steal that win from him... what a " "

Other way round Lewis was faster by a considerable anount all weekend.

Tripe. Hamilton's first stint was absolutely pathetic, so he allowed Alonso build up a lead strong enough that was strong enough to allow him to lead comfortably after the first round of pit stops. Had Hamilton have kept Alonso honest in that first stint, he may have won the race. Martin Brundle as well as other pundits agree with that. Hamilton failed to nail Alonso by the final round of pit stops, and the race was called off, so as to secure the one-two finish. The end. There was no hidden agenda. That has been McLaren's policy at Monaco since Ron Dennis took over the team, and that's how it should stay. McLaren are better qualified than anybody else to decide what happens in a Monaco Grand Prix given that the team have by far the most number of wins around the track. Get over yourself, RC. It's fine you support Hamilton, it's your choice and he's a skilled young driver, but your "love fest" with him and being blind to the truth is getting slightly embarrassing.

I was talking about the whole weekend not just the race. If you adjusted the fuel loads etc he was faster by quite some for most of the weekend, I didnt just make that up i read an analysis in autosport, It was very technical and I cant remember most of it. I believe somewhere along the line Lewis made an error over the wekend but if things were evened out he was the faster (surely someone with more technical acumen than me knows that and can explain it better?) I didnt say anywhere that there was a hidden agenda, I know the race was called of after the last lot of pitstops and i quite agree that it was the right thing to do. Where did I ever disagree with that??McLaren took it in turns to give the best strategy to their drivers and Monacco was not Lewis turn. I have no arguement with that and would wish it no different. I just said Lewis over the weekend was faster.Im not blinded,i was quoting an expert who had analysed it. I wish i still had the article. Sorry to be an embarressment I'll just shut up and make everyone happy.

[EwanM]

One thing tho, Alonso's qually lap at Monaco was amazingly hooked up. Hamilton or no Hamilton.

[McLaren Fan]

I was talking about the whole weekend not just the race. If you adjusted the fuel loads etc he was faster by quite some for most of the weekend, I didnt just make that up i read an analysis in autosport, It was very technical and I cant remember most of it. I believe somewhere along the line Lewis made an error over the wekend but if things were evened out he was the faster (surely someone with more technical acumen than me knows that and can explain it better?) I didnt say anywhere that there was a hidden agenda, I know the race was called of after the last lot of pitstops and i quite agree that it was the right thing to do. Where did I ever disagree with that??McLaren took it in turns to give the best strategy to their drivers and Monacco was not Lewis turn. I have no arguement with that and would wish it no different. I just said Lewis over the weekend was faster.Im not blinded,i was quoting an expert who had analysed it. I wish i still had the article. Sorry to be an embarressment I'll just shut up and make everyone happy.

In that case, I apologise when you were referring to the whole race weekend. Perhaps Hamilton was faster over the practice sessions, and maybe in qualifying when you take into account fuel, but Hamilton really let himself down badly in the race itself, the business end of the weekend. Even with his being on the safety car strategy, he was in with a great chance of winning the race, but he allowed Alonso to run off in for half the race, especially in his first stint, with which I especially remember myself and Brundle being pretty disappointed. Again, I apologise for suggesting that you meant McLaren did something to scupper McLaren's chances, when, in fact, it was Hamilton who unfairly had a dig at the team. I also regret saying that your like for Hamilton was verging on embarrassing, but I still standby the general gist of the point that I feel sometimes you want to ignore the bad points about him and his racing.

[EwanM]

If I remember rightly, Alonso was blitzing LH around Monaco last year, until the last couple of laps he was crusing with LH behind him to save the engines. Arogant as LH is, he wanted to steal that win from him... what a " "

Other way round Lewis was faster by a considerable anount all weekend.

Tripe. Hamilton's first stint was absolutely pathetic, so he allowed Alonso build up a lead strong enough that was strong enough to allow him to lead comfortably after the first round of pit stops. Had Hamilton have kept Alonso honest in that first stint, he may have won the race. Martin Brundle as well as other pundits agree with that. Hamilton failed to nail Alonso by the final round of pit stops, and the race was called off, so as to secure the one-two finish. The end. There was no hidden agenda. That has been McLaren's policy at Monaco since Ron Dennis took over the team, and that's how it should stay. McLaren are better qualified than anybody else to decide what happens in a Monaco Grand Prix given that the team have by far the most number of wins around the track. Get over yourself, RC. It's fine you support Hamilton, it's your choice and he's a skilled young driver, but your "love fest" with him and being blind to the truth is getting slightly embarrassing.

Im not wanting to get involved in this, but just wanna ask Mclaren Fan about his point on Ron Dennis and the Monaco GP. Surely he employed tht tactic on Senna and Prost in 1988. Now I know Prost played some mind games and got to Aryton, but why did Senna see the need to push so late on if that was the agreement? Could he not trust the team? Was Prost going against orders

[McLaren Fan]

I'm not wanting to get involved in this, but just wanna ask Mclaren Fan about his point on Ron Dennis and the Monaco GP. Surely he employed tht tactic on Senna and Prost in 1988. Now I know Prost played some mind games and got to Aryton, but why did Senna see the need to push if that was the agreement? Could he not trust the team?

Senna and Prost were great rivals, so I daresay there was some silly beggars from both drivers. The race was as good as over, so Dennis was probably looking forward to seeing both his drivers on the podium. Prost, slightly cheekily, decided he would put in a fast lap, because his desire to win the Grand Prix was greater than his desire to obey team orders, and he had nothing to lose. After Prost's fast lap, Senna freaked out, and so put the hammer down again, even though he was still the best part of a minute in the lead. Dennis (I think) told him over the radio that it was okay, Prost couldn't catch him, so he was to continue to take it easy. Senna must not have been convinced or was still distracted enough to crash the car. I guess it's one of the flaws of having the two top drivers in your team, allowing them to compete, and having to deal with their nasty tricks on one another. Going back to the original issue, however, it shows why McLaren are right to have the agreement, albeit tough to enforce sometimes, for last year, had Alonso and Hamilton raced one another, it would not have surprised me to see at least one of them crash. The difference between 1988 and 2007 was that Senna blamed himself for not winning, whilst Hamilton blamed the team for own underperformance.