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Rate the 2015 Italian GP

1 Completely forgettable
No votes
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2 A snore-fest, dull - no action
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20%
3 Boring, uneventful only livened by mistakes
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40%
4 A procession at the front
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20%
5 Some good battles
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20%
6 A memorable race
No votes
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7 Competitive racing - hard fought, strategic
No votes
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8 Exciting - a dramatic finish or an upset
No votes
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9 Could be the best race of the season
No votes
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10 One for the Ages!
No votes
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By overboost
#438204
Rate the Italian GP

How was the race at Monza?

Feel free to post your opinion!

The average rating for Belgium was 3.6

The average rating for Hungary was 8.6
The average rating for Britain was 7.1
The average rating for Austria was 3.6
The average rating for Canada was 3.0
The average rating for Monaco was 6.1
The average rating for Spain was 3.5
The average rating for Bahrain was 6.3
The average rating for China was 4.6
The average rating for Malaysia was 7.8
The average rating for Australia was 4.6
#438207
I'll give it a "3", highlights of the race were Raikonen's disastrous start, Rosberg's engine going bang and Hamilton's tyre inflation issues.
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By sagi58
#438215
Have to agree with MOA!!
Scripted once again!! If it wasn't for watching Kimi doing his thing
to get through the grid, there wasn't much to keep me interested.
#438226
Have to agree with MOA!!
Scripted once again!! If it wasn't for watching Kimi doing his thing
to get through the grid, there wasn't much to keep me interested.


If it was scripted I'm sure they could write up with something more exciting than a car being slow off the line and a blown engine, maybe they thought up the tyre thing halfway through the race to give us something to talk about.
#438236
I was very confused with the latitude offered to Mercedes at the end of the race.

Firstly with the communication to Hamilton to speed up to pull a gap to Vettel to cover a potential stop and then instructing him not to ask questions. I had thought that communication of this type with the driver was against the rules. And then of course we found it was all due to the car being unsafe due to low tire pressure and I wondered why the car wasn't required to pit immediately for proper tires. And post race no sanctions applied?

If the rules don't apply to all teams it really takes away from the perception of a fair competition.

A disappointing race really with a lack of action and Merc seemingly in control of the rule book, a 2/10.
#438239
Firstly with the communication to Hamilton to speed up to pull a gap to Vettel to cover a potential stop and then instructing him not to ask questions. I had thought that communication of this type with the driver was against the rules.

No, I think they can tell drivers to speed up, just not how to speed up or where they are losing time.

And then of course we found it was all due to the car being unsafe due to low tire pressure and I wondered why the car wasn't required to pit immediately for proper tires.

Merc were told near the end of the race, by that time they were on a different set of tyres.

And post race no sanctions applied?

The pressures were taken when the tyres had the blankets switched off and the temps had dropped, they were warmed up again before the start of the race so no case to apply sanctions.
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By sagi58
#438246
Have to agree with MOA!!
Scripted once again!! If it wasn't for watching Kimi doing his thing
to get through the grid, there wasn't much to keep me interested.


If it was scripted I'm sure they could write up with something more exciting than a car being slow off the line and a blown engine, maybe they thought up the tyre thing halfway through the race to give us something to talk about.


Scripted as in the outcome was predictable. :thumbup:
#438250
Firstly with the communication to Hamilton to speed up to pull a gap to Vettel to cover a potential stop and then instructing him not to ask questions. I had thought that communication of this type with the driver was against the rules.

No, I think they can tell drivers to speed up, just not how to speed up or where they are losing time.

And then of course we found it was all due to the car being unsafe due to low tire pressure and I wondered why the car wasn't required to pit immediately for proper tires.

Merc were told near the end of the race, by that time they were on a different set of tyres.

And post race no sanctions applied?

The pressures were taken when the tyres had the blankets switched off and the temps had dropped, they were warmed up again before the start of the race so no case to apply sanctions.


Merc deliberately uses low tire pressures to start the race as it affords them better traction off the line with a softer more compliant tire. Their tire filling and warming/cooling procedures are well thought out to achieve the desired (low) start pressure. They just got caught that's all. And got away with it!
#438251
Have to agree with MOA!!
Scripted once again!! If it wasn't for watching Kimi doing his thing
to get through the grid, there wasn't much to keep me interested.


Sagi I think you forgot to vote on this poll as well!
#438252
Firstly with the communication to Hamilton to speed up to pull a gap to Vettel to cover a potential stop and then instructing him not to ask questions. I had thought that communication of this type with the driver was against the rules.

No, I think they can tell drivers to speed up, just not how to speed up or where they are losing time.

And then of course we found it was all due to the car being unsafe due to low tire pressure and I wondered why the car wasn't required to pit immediately for proper tires.

Merc were told near the end of the race, by that time they were on a different set of tyres.

And post race no sanctions applied?

The pressures were taken when the tyres had the blankets switched off and the temps had dropped, they were warmed up again before the start of the race so no case to apply sanctions.


Merc deliberately uses low tire pressures to start the race as it affords them better traction off the line with a softer more compliant tire. Their tire filling and warming/cooling procedures are well thought out to achieve the desired (low) start pressure. They just got caught that's all. And got away with it!


Hi stonemonkey,

The communication to Lewis at the end of the race rubs me the wrong way I guess because it was not related to the racing but was to try to react to the possibility of a penalty which has nothing to the race itself, ie Vettel was under control so there is no racing reason for Lewis to speed up. The proof of this to me is that they even had to issue a gag order to Lewis to try and keep the pretense of being within the rules on driver communications.

ps. I would say that just issuing the 'gag order' itself probably violates the communications rules! :wink:
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By sagi58
#438253
...Sagi I think you forgot to vote on this poll as well!


Ooops, I did it again!! I'm beginning to sound like Britney!! :banghead:
#438255
Firstly with the communication to Hamilton to speed up to pull a gap to Vettel to cover a potential stop and then instructing him not to ask questions. I had thought that communication of this type with the driver was against the rules.

No, I think they can tell drivers to speed up, just not how to speed up or where they are losing time.

And then of course we found it was all due to the car being unsafe due to low tire pressure and I wondered why the car wasn't required to pit immediately for proper tires.

Merc were told near the end of the race, by that time they were on a different set of tyres.

And post race no sanctions applied?

The pressures were taken when the tyres had the blankets switched off and the temps had dropped, they were warmed up again before the start of the race so no case to apply sanctions.


Merc deliberately uses low tire pressures to start the race as it affords them better traction off the line with a softer more compliant tire. Their tire filling and warming/cooling procedures are well thought out to achieve the desired (low) start pressure. They just got caught that's all. And got away with it!


What on earth are you on about, they didn't get caught doing anything. This is all caused by the way the FIA handled the situation and not taking into account the conditions when they measured the pressures. Yes, Merc run the pressures as low as they can get away with and yes, when the tyre pressures were taken when the tyres were cold the pressures were below the limit but the tyres were heated up before the race start meaning that the cars never ran on under inflated tyres. Look up gay lussac's law.

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