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By Mikep99
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Lancia to buy into Scuderia Toro Rosso?
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20358.html
The word from Italy is that the Fiat-owned Lancia brand is considering buying into Scuderia Toro Rosso, as part of its plan to revive the marque by expanding sales of Lancia models in Europe and beyond. The company's sporting heritage is impressive, dating back to 1906 when former Fiat Grand Prix driver Vincenzo Lancia set up the business, convinced that he could bring new ideas to the growing automobile business. He insisted that the company stay out of competition and concentrate on building luxurious and sporting road cars. He died in 1937 and his son Gianni took over the company and in the 1950s he hired Alfa Romeo racing designer Vittorio Jano and recruited Ferrari drivers Alberto Ascari and Gigi Villoresi and entered F1 with the D50, powered by a 2.5-liter V8 engine. The team began winning non-championship races in 1955 but the death of Ascari in a Ferrari sports car and serious financial problems resulted in Gianni Lancia selling the D50s to Enzo Ferrari. In 1956 the D50s won five of the seven World Championship events and continued to do well in 1957.

The Lancia company remained independent and in the 1960s Cesare Fiorio's HF Squadra Corse began to achieve good results in rallying with Lancia products. The team won the European Rally Championship in 1969, the same year as Lancia became part of the Fiat empire. HF Squadra Corse moved to the Lancia factory and became the motorsport department. In the 1970s Lancia won a string of WRC titles with the Stratos and also enjoyed some success in sports car racing, winning the World Championship in 1981. There was talk in 1980 of building a turbo engine for the new Toleman F1 team but in the end rallying remained the focus with the Lancia Delta. Six consecutive Manufacturers' titles and three Drivers' titles followed until 1992 when the factory pulled out of the WRC, leaving a few privateers to battle on for a period. Poor sales pushed it back into the Italian market and it came close to be closed down in 2004.

The firm is now being run by Frenchman Olivier Francois, who has been in the job for the last couple of years, and is committed to tripling Lancia sales to 300,000 cars in 2010. His aim is to add new models, get better dealerships and expand into new markets. At the moment the company is 80% dependent on the Italian market.

Among the strategies that Francois has introduced is to use Carla Bruni, the Italian singer-supermodel and new wife of French President Nicolas Sarkozy in the advertising campaigns. It is worth noting that before joining Lancia, Francois worked at Peugeot Citroen in France and there may be links with recent rumours suggesting that Nicolas Todt, son of Jean Todt (formerly at Peugeot Citroen before joining Ferrari), might buy into the Italian-based team, to create a secondary Fiat-owned operation. This makes sense as the team would be allowed to use Ferrari engine and drivetrain technology but would need to build its own chassis. That would be a similar story to the Lancia Stratos, which was powered by a Ferrari engine.


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By AKR
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Mike if that is true then that is Music to my ears. I love the Lancia brand if they come back to F1 as Lancia-Ferrari then I would be going for them as well as the works Scuderia Ferrari team. I am a rally fan as you may know and that Ferrari powered Lancia Stratos you placed on your post, I love that car. Three time constructors WRC CHAMPION. 1974, 1975, 1976. Also the Stratos won the Drivers Championship in 1977 (This was the first year of the Drivers Championship or the Rally Cup for drivers as it was known then, Prior to that there was only the Constructors Championship). The Stratos also won the European Rally Championship in 1976, 1977 and 1978. The best Lancia cars were the Delta S4. This was basically like an F1 car on dirt and as of tragic accident in the 1986 season the rules were changed from Group B to Group A in 1987 which were far less powerfull.

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Lancia Delta S4

As a result of the deaths that happen in 1986 this car, the fastest rally car of all time never won a WRC title but it did win the ERC in 1986.

And now for the Best rally car of all time, the Lancia Delta Integrale (Integrale (Italian), Integral (Spanish) means 4WD in those languages). It won the WRC - Condtructors in 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992 a record for a single model to win the title. It also won the drivers WRC title in 1987, 1988, 1989 and 1991. Further more it won the ERC in 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990 and 1991.

On top of this the Lancia Stratos, Delta S4 and Delta 4WD/Integrale have won many national titles respectively inluding titles in Italy, Midtropa and Australia to name a few.

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Lancia Delta Integrale

Now all I ask is that after Fiat hopefully takes over Toro Rosso and makes them Lancia in F1 that in 2009 the build the below and make a comeback in the WRC world.

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By Mikep99
#43789
Lancia in F1 would be awesome.


I agree I would love to see it but I don't know how true the story is.

AKR I love that concept Lancia, its hot.
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By Rivelution
#43790
Lancia in F1 would be awesome.


I agree I would love to see it but I don't know how true the story is.

AKR I love that concept Lancia, its hot.


Didnt they used to be in F1 like waaayy back in the 50s, or even earlier?
By Mikep99
#43791
Lancia in F1 would be awesome.


I agree I would love to see it but I don't know how true the story is.

AKR I love that concept Lancia, its hot.


Didnt they used to be in F1 like waaayy back in the 50s, or even earlier?


Lancia D50
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The Lancia D50 was a Formula One racing car designed by Vittorio Jano for Lancia in 1954. The car's design made use of many innovative features, such as the use of the engine as a stressed chassis member, the off-centre positioning of the engine to allow a lower overall height, and pannier fuel cells for better weight distribution and aerodynamics. Six of the cars were built, two of them are displayed in Italian museums.

The D50 made its race debut toward the end of the 1954 Formula One season in the hands of two-time and reigning World Champion, Italian driver Alberto Ascari. In its very first event Ascari took both pole position in qualifying and fastest race lap, although his car's clutch failed after only ten laps.[4] Following Ascari's death, and in increasing financial trouble, the Lancia family sold their controlling share in the Lancia company, and the assets of Scuderia Lancia were given to Scuderia Ferrari. Ferrari continued to develop the car, although they removed many of Jano's most innovative designs,and the car was rebadged as the Lancia-Ferrari D50 and later simply the Ferrari D50. Juan Manuel Fangio won the Formula One World Championship in 1956 with this car modified by Ferrari. During their competition lifespan D50s were entered into 14 World Championship Formula One Grands Prix, winning five.
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By deMuRe
#43793
Interesting post Mike, good read...

As much as I'd love to appreciate the romantic side of a brand like Lancia coming back into F1, at the end of a day it's just FIAT trying to increase brand awareness and profits.

However, take somebody who loves F1 and is going to start up a private team under the Lancia name, that's another matter alltogether...
By Mikep99
#43808
anything Italian.....


:roll: Yeh bud we know, that issue seems to drive most of your grips, doesn’t it mate.
I think you may need some devine help.

Next time your outside look to the skies, the big fella has a message for you :wink:

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By Mikep99
#43813
na doesnt bother me it amuses me :wink:


Yeh thats the typical answer.
OH it bothers you mate and its bigtime otherwise you would not keep making the same comments & with such passion (Some of your past posts were pearlers on the subject)

OK I will play along. Yeh its so funny HA HA HA :roll::wink:Image
By Mikep99
#43815
the only thing typical is you..... which is what amuses me ;)


Well thanks bud I am flattered :oops:
But I must say your are right I do typically pick you up on your inconsistencies and point them out to you :wink:
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By Forti_Corse
#43821
youre soooo perfect arent you mike? grow the hell up your not better than us. your lucky you have gilles in your signature otherwise id have armchair gangstered all over your sorry a**.

but in comment to this thread i hope alitalia sponsor it(are they still around?) green white and red cars look great

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