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[woody2goody]

I think BMW has their best shot at winning in Monaco. Whether it comes from Nick or Robert, but I think Robert has a slight advantage because he is better at qualifying.

I've picked Nick to win in monaco with Robert third behind Hamilton.

I can picture that because he is so difficult to overtake. Nick got 2nd at Monaco when he was with williams didnt he?

Yeah that's right. He passed Alonso and a couple of others that day as well. I think it'll be a good day for Lewis, also for Alonso and Trulli. Expect Button, Webber and DC to be faster there as well.

[racechick]

If and when Lewis wins 1,2,3,8 championships they will be won fair and square.

What if Lewis win's some of those WDC's with Ferrari since they are deemed cheater's even without the FIA's preferential treatment?

Id prefer he got them all at McLaren but who knows what the future holds. I hope he doesnt go to Ferrari, not as they are at presesnt anyway. Though to be fair, so far Stephano Domenicalli seems a decent guy and i really like felipe Massa's race engineer. Its people like Todt and De Montezemelo and you just dont know who else behind the scenes.

[texasmr2]

If and when Lewis wins 1,2,3,8 championships they will be won fair and square.

What if Lewis win's some of those WDC's with Ferrari since they are deemed cheater's even without the FIA's preferential treatment?

Id prefer he got them all at McLaren but who knows what the future holds. I hope he doesnt go to Ferrari, not as they are at presesnt anyway. Though to be fair, so far Stephano Domenicalli seems a decent guy and i really like felipe Massa's race engineer. Its people like Todt and De Montezemelo and you just dont know who else behind the scenes.

Either with Ferrari or McLaren I look forward to Lewis's 1st WDC.

[KyrosV]

Either with Ferrari or McLaren I look forward to Lewis's 1st WDC.

might not happen for a while, not this year anyway

[racechick]

Either with Ferrari or McLaren I look forward to Lewis's 1st WDC.

might not happen for a while, not this year anyway

Maybe not.......but maybe yes

[KyrosV]

Either with Ferrari or McLaren I look forward to Lewis's 1st WDC.

might not happen for a while, not this year anyway

Maybe not.......but maybe yes

not being mean, but I think ferrari are gonna be in a stronger position all through this season, Mclaren are on the edge being snapped at by Renault and BMW.

next year, I would expect BMW to up the game, and possibly renault move up a step with ferrari being stronger than mclaren (who may again be "Snapped at" by Honda, Toyota, williams and Redbull.

dont get me wrong, its just my opinion, but theres to much problems and playing silly buggers in the mclaren camp and may rue missing there chance last year (as they were far superiour to ferrari). They need to step out of the circus limelight and function as a strong dedicated and focused F1 team (i.e Ron Dennis(needs to go), Lewis Hamilton(stop parading around & whinning and just put his head down and focus on learning before he becomes the biggest FLAKE in sport history and not achieve anything major, and Naubert Haug(either buy out the team or shhh!))

just my opinon...

[racechick]

Either with Ferrari or McLaren I look forward to Lewis's 1st WDC.

might not happen for a while, not this year anyway

Maybe not.......but maybe yes

not being mean, but I think ferrari are gonna be in a stronger position all through this season, Mclaren are on the edge being snapped at by Renault and BMW.

next year, I would expect BMW to up the game, and possibly renault move up a step with ferrari being stronger than mclaren (who may again be "Snapped at" by Honda, Toyota, williams and Redbull.

dont get me wrong, its just my opinion, but theres to much problems and playing silly buggers in the mclaren camp and may rue missing there chance last year (as they were far superiour to ferrari). They need to step out of the circus limelight and function as a strong dedicated and focused F1 team (i.e Ron Dennis(needs to go), Lewis Hamilton(stop parading around & whinning and just put his head down and focus on learning before he becomes the biggest FLAKE in sport history and not achieve anything major, and Naubert Haug(either buy out the team or shhh!))

just my opinon...

Well thats your opinion and I respect that but dont agree. I thinkk McLaren are quite close to Ferrari and the others a way off, except BMW who are only a fraction off.
Ron has built McLaren up from nothing and does not need to go He IS mcLaren.
And Lewis most certainly does not whine.

[f1ea]

The way i see the battle is:

1. Lewis is only 7 pts behind Kimi. So a simple DNF from Kimi and a 2nd place for Lewis, puts him ahead of Kimi in the WDC. And Masa is now officially in the fight. So team "decisions" will not be so obvious or easy.

2. Mclaren could have won Turkey; with Lewis had it not been for his Q mistakes, and possibly Heikki had it not been for race mistakes (assuming he was on a 'regular' fuel load). So you could say the car is not out of contention.

3. Renault, BMW, Toyota and even Williams are not terribly far behind Mclaren, which means they can take advantage of Mclaren's mistakes and discount on their points at the end. And this is probably Ferrari's edge right now, because a poor showing from Kimi got him a podium! and when he is not been perfect.. he comes in 2nd. This is going to be tough to beat, but still (see 1 and 2).

4. Haug pretty much represents Mercedes, and Dennis Mclaren... and since the Team is called (Vodafone) Mclaren - Mercedes, I guess, any of these 2 guys can say and do pretty much what they please until they... at least change the team's name.

5. Lewis needs to stop parading, chewing up his tyres and writing rookie books... and hitting the wrong buttons and climbing Alonso's rear
Or the Championship will be out of reach.

[racechick]

The way i see the battle is:

1. Lewis is only 7 pts behind Kimi. So a simple DNF from Kimi and a 2nd place for Lewis, puts him ahead of Kimi in the WDC. And Masa is now officially in the fight. So team "decisions" will not be so obvious or easy.

2. Mclaren could have won Turkey; with Lewis had it not been for his Q mistakes, and possibly Heikki had it not been for race mistakes (assuming he was on a 'regular' fuel load). So you could say the car is not out of contention.

3. Renault, BMW, Toyota and even Williams are not terribly far behind Mclaren, which means they can take advantage of Mclaren's mistakes and discount on their points at the end. And this is probably Ferrari's edge right now, because a poor showing from Kimi got him a podium! and when he is not been perfect.. he comes in 2nd. This is going to be tough to beat, but still (see 1 and 2).

4. Haug pretty much represents Mercedes, and Dennis Mclaren... and since the Team is called (Vodafone) Mclaren - Mercedes, I guess, any of these 2 guys can say and do pretty much what they please until they... at least change the team's name.

5. Lewis needs to stop parading, chewing up his tyres and writing rookie books... and hitting the wrong buttons and climbing Alonso's rear
Or the Championship will be out of reach.

Point number5 is nonsensical. You can pick random events from any of the drivers and list them, I can think of loads.
Taking the point of the tyres, Lewis does not decide to "chew uo his tyres". It is a combination of his driving style, the tyres and the McLaren. Changing Lewis' driving style is probably the least effective way to remedy the problem. you think McLaren and Bridgestone wont be working on this?? And when they sort it this easy ride you think kimi is going to have will not be so easy. Lewis is the fastest on the hard tyres, just wait til the softs are sorted. Kimi better not take too many of his 'absent' days then!

[nikon133]

People who think Lewis is arrogant and wishes to have the team attend formost to him should note this part of the previos post-

Heading into Monaco, Hamilton has a 14-point advantage over Kovalainen but does not want the team to show him any favouritism.

"It would not be right for the team to push me ahead of him," said the 23-year-old.

"If I am not winning then I wish he was and it is the same feeling vice-versa, so I want it to continue as it is, fair and square.

"We are a team and I felt sorry for him that he was not able to compete in Turkey. I have no doubts he will be up at the front next time out."

If and when Lewis wins 1,2,3 8 championships they will be won fair and square.

Yeah, I see he's working on his PR...

... but would he do the same if Heiki is really threatening him..?

[texasmr2]

... but would he do the same if Heiki is really threatening him..?

I like to think he would?

[racechick]

People who think Lewis is arrogant and wishes to have the team attend formost to him should note this part of the previos post-

Heading into Monaco, Hamilton has a 14-point advantage over Kovalainen but does not want the team to show him any favouritism.

"It would not be right for the team to push me ahead of him," said the 23-year-old.

"If I am not winning then I wish he was and it is the same feeling vice-versa, so I want it to continue as it is, fair and square.

"We are a team and I felt sorry for him that he was not able to compete in Turkey. I have no doubts he will be up at the front next time out."

If and when Lewis wins 1,2,3 8 championships they will be won fair and square.

Yeah, I see he's working on his PR...

... but would he do the same if Heiki is really threatening him..?

Heikki isnt far behind Lewis and Lewis wants no favours. He also knows that at McLaren he wont get any.

[darwin dali]

Point number5 is nonsensical. You can pick random events from any of the drivers and list them, I can think of loads.
Taking the point of the tyres, Lewis does not decide to "chew uo his tyres". It is a combination of his driving style, the tyres and the McLaren. Changing Lewis' driving style is probably the least effective way to remedy the problem. you think McLaren and Bridgestone wont be working on this?? And when they sort it this easy ride you think kimi is going to have will not be so easy. Lewis is the fastest on the hard tyres, just wait til the softs are sorted. Kimi better not take too many of his 'absent' days then!

It IS LH who's got the problem with the tires, it's not the tires and not McLaren - see HK, he doesn't have this problem or at least it's not as bad at all. I think LH will have to adapt his driving style or get McLaren to completely change the car development to accommodate his style (which could pose a problem for HK). Plus I doubt they can find a fix for both types of tires - the problem is so severe that it might have to be either or, either the hard(er) tires work for LH or the softer ones do, but not both at the same time. Unless that is, LH actually changes his driving style and starts to race with his brain rather than his sausage gone wild.

[Mikep99]

Point number5 is nonsensical. You can pick random events from any of the drivers and list them, I can think of loads.
Taking the point of the tyres, Lewis does not decide to "chew uo his tyres". It is a combination of his driving style, the tyres and the McLaren. Changing Lewis' driving style is probably the least effective way to remedy the problem. you think McLaren and Bridgestone wont be working on this?? And when they sort it this easy ride you think kimi is going to have will not be so easy. Lewis is the fastest on the hard tyres, just wait til the softs are sorted. Kimi better not take too many of his 'absent' days then!

It IS LH who's got the problem with the tires, it's not the tires and not McLaren - see HK, he doesn't have this problem or at least it's not as bad at all. I think LH will have to adapt his driving style or get McLaren to completely change the car development to accommodate his style (which could pose a problem for HK). Plus I doubt they can find a fix for both types of tires - the problem is so severe that it might have to be either or, either the hard(er) tires work for LH or the softer ones do, but not both at the same time. Unless that is, LH actually changes his driving style and starts to race with his brain rather than his sausage gone wild.

Your so mean DD
How can you make such comments about Hammy. After all he is SO SO talented

[KyrosV]

oh yer forgot to add, Kovii is getting quiker and quiker and getting up to grips with the mclaren (as he did at renault). I think he will soon be better than hamilton. then we will see LHs metal.. I think LH driving skills are a bit basic, and results have been brought buy luck and a fast car (ok hats off he had a good rookie season but he has been brought up by mclaren so I would of been shocked if he didnt do well)