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By woody2goody
#43279
Trouble is the favoured tracks seem to have altered from last year. Ferrari now quicker on twisty bits and macca on straighter bits. How will it bode for monacco whee maccas were far superior last year? You right thos mcLaren will be working on it :cry:


Tracks that favour Ferrari and tracks that favour McLaren. At the end of the day it wont matter as the 2008 season will belong to Ferrari as it rightfully should. No one that cheats in the previous season is then allowed to win in the following. It would make the FIA look silly. Besides Ferrari has a quick car regardless of the track. As long as they kick arse in most races it wont matter. In fact I wouldn't care if Kovi won at Monaco as long as Lewis doesn't finish and Ferraris come 2nd and 3rd. Ferrari would then still increase their lead in both championships. And then we have the other great factor. We have the FIA that favours us too. ;-) Maybe if McLaren never cheated the FIA could be nice to them too. But no one likes a cheat or a recent cheater. Maccas? Thats a perfect nick name for McLaren. Maccas is what they call McDonalds as a slang word in Australia. You eat at Maccas. Just like Ferrari would eat McLarens or Maccas for dead on the race circuit. *LOL*


Yes Ferrari have the FIA on their side but maybe with the current scandle amongst their ranks they would be wise to avoid accusing others of cheating as a means of settling personal scores. As a Ferrari supporter who condones cheating i find it strange that you refer to last season in this way.
However you do talk sense when you express your fear of Lewis... You have obviosly recognised where the danger to Ferrari lies. Be glad you have the FIA to fight your battles, you'll need it!!


Well said racechick :)

It seems McLaren aren't quite as far back as the red cars would like. They would have had egg on their face if Heikki would have won which was the likely outcome of the race.
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By 7UpJordan
#43280
U know AKR comments like yours give ferrari fans a bad name

Makes her sound like a Leeds United supporter at times... I'd be ashamed if I was a Ferrari fan by comments like that just like I'd be ashamed about the FIA's incompetence which makes them look like they're helping Ferrari.
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By woody2goody
#43303
Makes her sound like a Leeds United supporter at times...


Oi! :)
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By texasmr2
#43331
U know AKR comments like yours give ferrari fans a bad name

Yes it does and that is the main reason for my and AKR's latest conflict but we all have our own opinion no matter how biased it is. Anyone else notice as of late how are opinion does not count or does not matter? We normally all try to respect each other's opinion, most of us, but really how much should we have to endure? Just because my main team is Ferrari does not mean I dont respect other team's for their history, performance or outright domination of a race but I'm not considered a TRUE TIFOSI ? When I see a team or driver totally dominate an event prop's must be given to them for their performance and/or progress right?

Also yes you are correct 7UpJordan about the FIA and their discretion's against the sport as a whole yet hopefully when Max is gone the tide will turn, one can only hope and pray.
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By AKR
#43346
U know AKR comments like yours give ferrari fans a bad name


I give Ferrari a bad name. I know plenty who would say otherwise. I love to glorify Ferrari as I do my country (Including the one I was born in). Can't help it. But on a different note I am so sick of people who think Hamilton is such a great gift of God. Kurac he is! I acknoledge that he drove well in Turkey. But hey when Schumi had a similar scenario back in Hungary of 1998 he actually won. I remember the race and watching it live. Now that was glory and worth gloryfing. If Hamilton was such a great gift of God why couldn't he actually win as well. All I hear from McLaren supporters is Hamilton, Hamilton, Hamilton. :roll: If he is so great he would of had a brain and easily won last year by getting the 4 points he needed with just 2 races to go. It wasn't his cars fault so he can only blame himself. And you McLaren supporters think he is so great after he pulled that blunder in the last 2 races. Yeah right. So here I am talking about Ferrari as they are some divine god annoying even my fellow Ferrari supporters, well that is how I feel about all this Hamilton crap. And you know what, after Ferrari got McLaren hard last season by not only winning everything down to the wire and getting McLaren fined and kicked out of the Constructors Championship, I considered revenge to McLaren over for Ferrari not winning a Drivers title in 21 years. Yes The Schumi domance wasn't enough but last years events made it enough. However this Hamilton annoys me. I do not like him and hate hearing on how good he is when he isn't any better than either Kimi, Alonso, Massa or Heiki to name a few. If McLaren ever wins another drivers title I sure hope it is Heiki and never Hamilton. Heiki I have respect for even if he drives for a team I don't like. Hamilton, now he is just an arrogant little prick.

Now I will take a breath and relax. I needed to get that out of my system so apologies if I may of offended or annoyed anyone. :)
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By AKR
#43347
Yes Ferrari have the FIA on their side but maybe with the current scandle amongst their ranks they would be wise to avoid accusing others of cheating as a means of settling personal scores. As a Ferrari supporter who condones cheating i find it strange that you refer to last season in this way.
However you do talk sense when you express your fear of Lewis... You have obviosly recognised where the danger to Ferrari lies. Be glad you have the FIA to fight your battles, you'll need it!!


Of course I condone cheating. I was very much referring to what happened last season and how someone accused of cheating is seen as. I never said that I personally would like things to be like that or continue from last season. Regarding Lewis. A threat he is, overcome him Ferrari will do. Their cars are better and drivers equally as good. McLaren should of never pissed off Alonso. Heiki although I have respect for him is not as good as either Alonso or unfortunilty Hamilton. Last season McLaren had a super force in its driver line up. This year it isn't as strong with the abscense of Alonso and only Hamilton the real threat for now.
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By bud
#43352
AKR its obvious you dont like Hammy because you fear him so much :wink: for if you dont like arrogance in a driver you wouldnt have liked Schumacher :lol:
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By AKR
#43356
AKR its obvious you dont like Hammy because you fear him so much :wink: for if you dont like arrogance in a driver you wouldnt have liked Schumacher :lol:


Ummmm yeah but Schumi was my hero, Hamilton isn't. Schumi's arrogance brang joy to my heart, Hamilton's makes me sick. ;-) It is probably the other way around for you Bud. Maybe something to do with the teams the drivers relate to. :lol:
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By 8-ball
#43367
U know AKR comments like yours give ferrari fans a bad name


I give Ferrari a bad name. I know plenty who would say otherwise. I love to glorify Ferrari as I do my country (Including the one I was born in). Can't help it. But on a different note I am so sick of people who think Hamilton is such a great gift of God. Kurac he is! I acknoledge that he drove well in Turkey. But hey when Schumi had a similar scenario back in Hungary of 1998 he actually won. I remember the race and watching it live. Now that was glory and worth gloryfing. If Hamilton was such a great gift of God why couldn't he actually win as well. All I hear from McLaren supporters is Hamilton, Hamilton, Hamilton. :roll: If he is so great he would of had a brain and easily won last year by getting the 4 points he needed with just 2 races to go. It wasn't his cars fault so he can only blame himself. And you McLaren supporters think he is so great after he pulled that blunder in the last 2 races. Yeah right. So here I am talking about Ferrari as they are some divine god annoying even my fellow Ferrari supporters, well that is how I feel about all this Hamilton crap. And you know what, after Ferrari got McLaren hard last season by not only winning everything down to the wire and getting McLaren fined and kicked out of the Constructors Championship, I considered revenge to McLaren over for Ferrari not winning a Drivers title in 21 years. Yes The Schumi domance wasn't enough but last years events made it enough. However this Hamilton annoys me. I do not like him and hate hearing on how good he is when he isn't any better than either Kimi, Alonso, Massa or Heiki to name a few. If McLaren ever wins another drivers title I sure hope it is Heiki and never Hamilton. Heiki I have respect for even if he drives for a team I don't like. Hamilton, now he is just an arrogant little prick.

Now I will take a breath and relax. I needed to get that out of my system so apologies if I may of offended or annoyed anyone. :)


I got nothing against you glorifying Ferrari you are a passionate supporter but when you say that Ferrari should cheat to win and have the FIA in their pocket and then insult Mclaren a team that has been very successful it just annoys me. You seriously think that Enzo would approve. I don't much about the man but i am pretty sure when he founded Ferrari he wanted to win races fair and square. I agree with you when you say that Lewis was over hyped but to call him an arrogant prick when you haven't even met the man and that insult is based on the fact that he managed to beat the Ferrari's in a few races last year is just the worst attitude you can have.

My piece is over. I don't want to talk about this anymore
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By texasmr2
#43379
I certainly do not view LH as being arrogant I think his demeanor is a breath of fresh air.
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By racechick
#43383
I certainly do not view LH as being arrogant I think his demeanor is a breath of fresh air.

I agree with you there Tex. He always owns up to his errors and praises others when its due. He is an aggressive driver butfair and not not an arrogant one.
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By McLaren Fan
#43438
U know AKR comments like yours give ferrari fans a bad name


I give Ferrari a bad name. I know plenty who would say otherwise. I love to glorify Ferrari as I do my country (Including the one I was born in). Can't help it. But on a different note I am so sick of people who think Hamilton is such a great gift of God. Kurac he is! I acknoledge that he drove well in Turkey. But hey when Schumi had a similar scenario back in Hungary of 1998 he actually won. I remember the race and watching it live. Now that was glory and worth gloryfing. If Hamilton was such a great gift of God why couldn't he actually win as well. All I hear from McLaren supporters is Hamilton, Hamilton, Hamilton. :roll: If he is so great he would of had a brain and easily won last year by getting the 4 points he needed with just 2 races to go. It wasn't his cars fault so he can only blame himself. And you McLaren supporters think he is so great after he pulled that blunder in the last 2 races. Yeah right. So here I am talking about Ferrari as they are some divine god annoying even my fellow Ferrari supporters, well that is how I feel about all this Hamilton crap. And you know what, after Ferrari got McLaren hard last season by not only winning everything down to the wire and getting McLaren fined and kicked out of the Constructors Championship, I considered revenge to McLaren over for Ferrari not winning a Drivers title in 21 years. Yes The Schumi domance wasn't enough but last years events made it enough. However this Hamilton annoys me. I do not like him and hate hearing on how good he is when he isn't any better than either Kimi, Alonso, Massa or Heiki to name a few. If McLaren ever wins another drivers title I sure hope it is Heiki and never Hamilton. Heiki I have respect for even if he drives for a team I don't like. Hamilton, now he is just an arrogant little prick.

Now I will take a breath and relax. I needed to get that out of my system so apologies if I may of offended or annoyed anyone. :)


I got nothing against you glorifying Ferrari you are a passionate supporter but when you say that Ferrari should cheat to win and have the FIA in their pocket and then insult Mclaren a team that has been very successful it just annoys me. You seriously think that Enzo would approve. I don't much about the man but i am pretty sure when he founded Ferrari he wanted to win races fair and square. I agree with you when you say that Lewis was over hyped but to call him an arrogant prick when you haven't even met the man and that insult is based on the fact that he managed to beat the Ferrari's in a few races last year is just the worst attitude you can have.

My piece is over. I don't want to talk about this anymore

You are correct to say that Enzo Ferrari would not approve. Ever since he took less involvement in the team as he got into his old age, Ferrari's morality began to decline. After the great man passed away, Ferrari went to the dogs. What Formula One needs is the old Ferrari (pre-1984), not this current corrupt outfit.
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By texasmr2
#43451
What Formula One needs is the old Ferrari (pre-1984), not this current corrupt outfit.

Same could be said for the action's of McLaren in '07 ! :wink:
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By racechick
#43455
What Formula One needs is the old Ferrari (pre-1984), not this current corrupt outfit.

Same could be said for the action's of McLaren in '07 ! :wink:

I cannot believe you really think that! The situations are entirely different as I'm sure you're aware.
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By texasmr2
#43461
What Formula One needs is the old Ferrari (pre-1984), not this current corrupt outfit.

Same could be said for the action's of McLaren in '07 ! :wink:

I cannot believe you really think that! The situations are entirely different as I'm sure you're aware.

Well I honestly cannot believe that you think there is any difference, wrong is wrong right?

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