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[Stealthgate007]

LH said that Bridgestone made them do a three stint to prevent a repeat of last year. How much of that is true? Can the tire manufacture really have that much influence on the teams strategy or is it just their suggestion that McLaren seriously heed. There is (something??) surrounding that if that is the case. It just doesn't sit right.

[woody2goody]

I watched practice, qualifying and the race and McLaren never had any tyre problems to speak of. Maybe BStone were just panicking.

[Denthúl]

LH said that Bridgestone made them do a three stint to prevent a repeat of last year. How much of that is true? Can the tire manufacture really have that much influence on the teams strategy or is it just their suggestion that McLaren seriously heed. There is (something??) surrounding that if that is the case. It just doesn't sit right.

They can't force any team to do anything.

[Stealthgate007]

Just found this:

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 2007.shtml

Bridgestone says tire problem specific to Hamilton only. That strikes me as odd.

[Denthúl]

Only Lewis Hamilton was asked by Bridgestone to adopt a three-stop strategy for the Turkish Grand Prix.

The recommendation was made to the British driver's McLaren team after signs of delamination were detected inside his tyres - particularly the front right - after the practice and qualifying sessions at Istanbul Park.

Hamilton suffered a tyre failure at the same circuit one year ago, but even a universal construction change for 2008 did not solve the problem that is caused by his unique driving style in the long turn-eight.


"Nobody else has had a repetition of any of those problems this year, with the exception of Lewis," a spokeswoman for F1's official tyre supplier told Reuters.

E.A. © CAPSIS International
Source: GMM

That was on the same site, Stealthgate007.

[bud]

Michelin made their teams not race in Indy remember, if the Tyre make talks the teams listen.

Hamiltons style is hard on his tyres, think he will shine on slicks with this in mind

[woody2goody]

Michelin made their teams not race in Indy remember, if the Tyre make talks the teams listen.

Hamiltons style is hard on his tyres, think he will shine on slicks with this in mind

Do slick tyres grain as well as the grooved ones?

Baring Hamilton's performance today in mind, would he be wise to try this again another few times this year?

[bud]

“It is an interesting and significant development for Formula One to return to slick tyres,” says Tetsuro Kobayashi, Technical Manager, Bridgestone Motorsport.

“When we first saw the introduction of grooved tyres in Formula One we had a lot to learn. As a grooved tyre has a smaller contact patch with the road we needed to use harder compounds to attain the same levels of durability as we would see with a slick tyre of the same size.

“Also, the grooves mean that the area that is in contact with the road is not as stable so more movement can take place in the rubber, which is something that has contributed to the greater amount of graining seen in the grooved tyres.”

Bridgestone and the Formula One teams and drivers have worked with grooved tyres for over ten seasons now, so the change in the regulations for next year means a lot of work between now and the start of next season.

“In recognition of the changes in the regulations we have made slick tyres available at two tests so far,” says Kobayashi. “The first was in Jerez where we brought one compound of slick Formula One tyre, and this was very much a prototype development tyre for ourselves and teams to gain initial data.”

As well as the regulations no longer requiring grooves on the tyres, downforce levels will be significantly lower than before, and the use of tyre blankets which pre-heat the tyres to their operating temperature will no longer be allowed.

[Denthúl]

Michelin made their teams not race in Indy remember, if the Tyre make talks the teams listen.

Hamiltons style is hard on his tyres, think he will shine on slicks with this in mind

There's a significant difference, though. At Indy it was a much larger problem which was proven to cause serious incidents, especially since tyre changes were not allowed in 2005. I think McLaren would have been safe if they opted for a two-stop strategy, but wanted to make sure nothing happened whatsoever, so took Bridgetsone's advice.

That is, of course, just how I see it.

[7UpJordan]

When slicks return next year, to watch out for as opposed to graining is wheels locking up and causing "flat spots" which were common in the slicks era.

[Jensonb]

It's just a matter of Hamilton driving hard on the ragged edge all the time - he has an extremely aggressive driving style, so he works the tyres harder than most drivers.

[bud]

Michelin made their teams not race in Indy remember, if the Tyre make talks the teams listen.

Hamiltons style is hard on his tyres, think he will shine on slicks with this in mind

There's a significant difference, though. At Indy it was a much larger problem which was proven to cause serious incidents, especially since tyre changes were not allowed in 2005. I think McLaren would have been safe if they opted for a two-stop strategy, but wanted to make sure nothing happened whatsoever, so took Bridgetsone's advice.

That is, of course, just how I see it.

i was using that as an example to stealthgate who didnt think Tyre partners had much power in team thinking.

like i said if a tyre make talks the team will listen