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[sagi58]

So the expertz, maintain the following, and all their posts are based on these 'inconsistent opinions'

MS designed the Hybrid
MS influenced the 2014 car...

Find the quote where I said that.
What I did say was that it was possible that
Mercedes had/wanted input from him.

[CookinFlat6]

I was talking about our site expertz collectively agreeing and saying the same things reinforcing each other by the

You hit the nail on the head

Saying agreeing etc, no one has retracted the above statements

Edit, I forgot to add to the list - that the yearly development window is only for 3 months, I am never sure which expertz had which Mea Culpa, but they all stick to these claims

An "entire" year? Let's see, the season finished at the end of November... next is December... January... and February...
Three months. uh-huh...

Mind you, Mercedes had it right. Don't worry about doing well for the first few years, spend all your track time during races to develop bits and pieces with the inimitable Schumi to test things for you, accumulate, analyze and use all that data to design and build a hybrid engine, whilst the other teams are busy trying to race to the two titles, using engines that would soon be outlawed in F1.

[sagi58]

I was talking about our site expertz collectively agreeing and saying the same things...

We're learning from the best!!

[CookinFlat6]

Thats the point - you all refuse to learn. Even today you are still saying engine updates after each race is what everyone wants apart from evil merc. even today you are still saying the 2 losers are held back and refuse to even reply when asked why they havent developed to the extent allowed

thats not learning - thats 'I can typing'

spend all your track time during races to develop bits and pieces with the inimitable Schumi to test things for you, accumulate, analyze and use all that data to design and build a hybrid engine

[overboost]

Thats the point - you all refuse to learn. Even today you are still saying engine updates after each race is what everyone wants apart from evil merc. even today you are still saying the 2 losers are held back and refuse to even reply when asked why they havent developed to the extent allowed

thats not learning - thats 'I can typing'

Of course it is always some one else's fault when you can't get your way! You start stamping you feet.

But who would dare to question one who professes to know better than Jones, Coulthard, Raikkonen, Massa, Stewart, Anderson, Hill, Windsor, The Wall Street Journal and Lewis Hamilton himself.

So then the great debater makes things up and says that the have not teams are not held back by the freeze! Marco and Horner are on record to say that this is the case and had requested a loosening of the freeze. Of course they must have 'refused to learn' and failed to realize that cookinflat6 of the internet knows better. What a hoot!

We can add their names to the list.

[CookinFlat6]

Horner had ulterior motives which have since been exposed by his change of stance and ofcourse by are Reanults admittance that they didn't develop to the extent they could have done. Yet you lot refuse to even explain this and continue to ignorantly claim Merc are not allowing them to develop

You didn't even know that the deadline for 2015 changes had passed till I pointed it out to you

As for MS designing the hybrid during V8 races, or teams modifying engines after each race - don't you have any shame?

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Horner had ulterior motives which have since been exposed by his change of stance and ofcourse by are Reanults admittance that they didn't develop to the extent they could have done. Yet you lot refuse to even explain this and continue to ignorantly claim Merc are not allowing them to develop

You didn't even know that the deadline for 2015 changes had passed till I pointed it out to you

As for MS designing the hybrid during V8 races, or teams modifying engines after each race - don't you have any shame?

I have not seen this quote from Renault, is there a link?

[CookinFlat6]

The article has been linked several times, I think someone even pasted the content to make it easier for the expertz, but it is a long article, so if you cant remember what you are reading and why after the first 350 characters, if you cant work things out, thats some tough luck if you want to understand F1 some day. So now you need me to go to cut and paste the 1 line you might actually remember or make sense off???

Nah, if you cant educate yourself, then its ok for you to continue thinking MS developed the 2014 hybrid by testing parts during races whilst running the V8 engine

edit; I find it hard to just accept ignorance and failure if I can help, and even when horses can be led to water who then die of thirst, its not charitable to allow a tree trunk to become a thick plank of wood if its avoidable

Ofcourse you may not understand it, but curing stupidity is beyond my charitable remit

"It's true that second in the constructors' championship is not our usual target, but the result demonstrates that we never stopped pushing hard and constantly improved. Obviously we have a huge job list ahead of next season, but also a clear direction and focus, as well as the determination to challenge for more wins in 2015.

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The article has been linked several times, I think someone even pasted the content to make it easier for the expertz, but it is a long article, so if you cant remember what you are reading and why after the first 350 characters, if you cant work things out, thats some tough luck if you want to understand F1 some day. So now you need me to go to cut and paste the 1 line you might actually remember or make sense off???

Nah, if you cant educate yourself, then its ok for you to continue thinking MS developed the 2014 hybrid by testing parts during races whilst running the V8 engine

edit; I find it hard to just accept ignorance and failure if I can help, and even when horses can be led to water who then die of thirst, its not charitable to allow a tree trunk to become a thick plank of wood if its avoidable

Ofcourse you may not understand it, but curing stupidity is beyond my charitable remit

"It's true that second in the constructors' championship is not our usual target, but the result demonstrates that we never stopped pushing hard and constantly improved. Obviously we have a huge job list ahead of next season, but also a clear direction and focus, as well as the determination to challenge for more wins in 2015.

Well none of the 'content' linked or otherwise in this thread has this mysterious quote from Renault.

The line you have posted above doesn't reference not using up their tokens either.

[CookinFlat6]

The article has been linked several times, I think someone even pasted the content to make it easier for the expertz, but it is a long article, so if you cant remember what you are reading and why after the first 350 characters, if you cant work things out, thats some tough luck if you want to understand F1 some day. So now you need me to go to cut and paste the 1 line you might actually remember or make sense off???

Nah, if you cant educate yourself, then its ok for you to continue thinking MS developed the 2014 hybrid by testing parts during races whilst running the V8 engine

edit; I find it hard to just accept ignorance and failure if I can help, and even when horses can be led to water who then die of thirst, its not charitable to allow a tree trunk to become a thick plank of wood if its avoidable

Ofcourse you may not understand it, but curing stupidity is beyond my charitable remit

"It's true that second in the constructors' championship is not our usual target, but the result demonstrates that we never stopped pushing hard and constantly improved. Obviously we have a huge job list ahead of next season, but also a clear direction and focus, as well as the determination to challenge for more wins in 2015.

Well none of the 'content' linked or otherwise in this thread has this quote mysterious from Renault.

The line you have posted above doesn't reference not using up their tokens either.

Ofcourse you may not understand it, but curing stupidity is beyond my charitable remit

"It's true that second in the constructors' championship is not our usual target, but the result demonstrates that we never stopped pushing hard and constantly improved. Obviously we have a huge job list ahead of next season, but also a clear direction and focus, as well as the determination to challenge for more wins in 2015.

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"It's true that second in the constructors' championship is not our usual target, but the result demonstrates that we never stopped pushing hard and constantly improved. Obviously we have a huge job list ahead of next season, but also a clear direction and focus, as well as the determination to challenge for more wins in 2015.

Obviously you have a whole lot of nothing with this quote. It does nothing for you claim of Renault not using all of their tokens and in fact it points out that second place in the wcc after the extremely poor start and poor engine power is quite an achievement for them. In spite of the freeze!

And what are you talking about regarding MS developing the 2014 hybrid engines? This has nothing to do with me and is probably just another one of your bizarre fantasies.

Cooking your swollen head is firmly stuck inside one of your triangles. If I were you I would stop talking until the swelling goes down (take as long as you like, the longer the better) and then start apologizing profusely.

ps.

spend all your track time during races to develop bits and pieces with the inimitable Schumi to test things for you, accumulate, analyze and use all that data to design and build a hybrid engine

Is this a quote that you have made up and are attributing to me? I certainly haven't made any such post. How can you expect to be taken seriously if you are making up false quotes??

[sagi58]

Thats the point - you all refuse to learn. Even today you are still saying engine updates after each race is what everyone wants apart from evil merc. even today you are still saying the 2 losers are held back and refuse to even reply when asked why they havent developed to the extent allowed

thats not learning - thats 'I can typing'

spend all your track time during races to develop bits and pieces with the inimitable Schumi to test things for you, accumulate, analyze and use all that data to design and build a hybrid engine

You really are pretty insecure, aren't you? Your need to be right all the time is pretty sad.
Your insistence on using a sledgehammer to prove you're right is way over the top.
If you're so sure that Mercedes can't be touched, can't be reached, can't be equalled, what's
wrong with allowing other teams the opportunity to develop their cars further, in order to
give us a season where the is "true" competition BETWEEN teams and not just team members?
Or is it that you aren't that sure?

As for the name calling, I really think you should be able to control yourself, because as far
as I'm concerned, nothing you say holds any merit with the continued and consistent insults.

[sagi58]

...As for MS designing the hybrid during V8 races, or teams modifying engines after each race - don't you have any shame?

That's an outright lie. No one said that.
No one even implied that.

You really do have comprehension issues!!

[racechick]

Time to drop the 'who designed the hybrid engine' debate now, we've all heard enough of it. Let's keep the discussin on topic and relevant.

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