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Why did I just know you wouldn't have an answer to who is more likely to be correct about Lewis and his fans worrying about Lewis getting sacked after his WDC and being replaced because he is costing Merc money?

Ob or the owners of Merc AMG? Try again- it's a sole question

I see you are now trying to tie your pathetic and desperate attempt at making Lewis fans realise that things are looking very bad for the champion - to the unfreeze

Don't bother cos you could end up looking really silly

Merc are not worried about their own deep pockets, they are worried about their customers costs increasing by having to implement engine upgrades more than once a year

Mate give your sore bottom a break, you gonna need it next season

Who is talking about Lewis getting sacked?? Not me. Are you somehow afraid for Hamilton's position??

Lewis isn't getting sacked is as far as I know, he just won a title! Well the W05 did most of the work which is the point you have been avoiding.

As I pointed out twice already I have stated that Lauda's opinion is important!

Regarding the freeze which was raised pages ago in my first post, it makes things look bad for F1. Plus I am not sure why you would fear competition as a Hamilton supporter anyway, isn't Hamilton supposed to be a good competitor?

And you really don't believe this do you? - "Merc are not worried about their own deep pockets, they are worried about their customers costs increasing by having to implement engine upgrades more than once a year" - You are either incredibly naive or blind. Merc cares about Merc, not the other teams. And the skyhigh cost of these engines, up $10-15M from last year, has already driven out two teams.

You seem to be all over the map cooking. Try to focus!

Now are you going to answer my simple questions or continue to make things up?

[LRW]

It makes things look bad for F1? No one was saying that back in February. And then Mercedes hands every team it's bum on a plate and all of a sudden its bad for a) costs b) image of F1 and basically makes Mercedes cheaters.

You H8erz make my balls f**king tickle with amusement.

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What if the teams were free to compete (no engine freeze) in 2014?

Ricciardo might be a WDC.

Alonso may have continued to stay with Ferrari.


edited for clarity!

[CookinFlat6]

You guys need to try to understand sports better - this unfreeze stuff for example - it's like stopping in the middle of a marathon to complain that you didn't have enough time to get fit and you want to change the rules to allow all unfit slobs to take a taxi and for the Kenyan chaps at the front to pay for the taxi

You lot are a joke

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What if the teams were free to compete in 2014?

Ricciardo might be a WDC.

Alonso may have continued to stay with Ferrari.

Ooops. Just saw this viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13729&view=unread#unread.

According to this report looks like Alonso would be tipped for wdc all things equal. I still would make a case for Ricciardo though with his attacking style and Newey in his corner.

[What's Burning?]

What if the teams were free to compete in 2014?

Ricciardo might be a WDC.

Alonso may have continued to stay with Ferrari.

They were free to compete, but you don't want to hear that. Hamilton is the best, and Mercedes embarrassed your team, fighting for 9th and 10th places in the last race of the year. Enzo is rolling over in his grave, god rest his soul. Ricciardo wouldn't have won because his team cheated so it would have been a hollow victory. And Hamilton is the best, and he beat Rosberg which in Sochi you said was the best driver and in Abu Dhabi you said he was an okay driver so your inability to make up you mind makes me suspect that you're not taking your meds daily. Did I tell you, that Hamilton is the best? Oh yeah Mercedes is the best too and they know how to come to the grid prepared to race instead of prepared with excuses. Oh and your posts are funny because it seems like you really didn't like this year, but I did and so I am happy for your misfortune. Forgive me, but one day your team will win and maybe you'll know what joy it is.

[What's Burning?]

What if the teams were free to compete in 2014?

Ricciardo might be a WDC.

Alonso may have continued to stay with Ferrari.

Ooops. Just saw this viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13729&view=unread#unread.

According to this report looks like Alonso would be tipped for wdc all things equal. I still would make a case for Ricciardo though with his attacking style and Newey in his corner.

Well that report was nice but it doesn't matter because it's a theoretical, like you know in the real world your team has to produce a good car and a good engine... all things are not equal. Poor Ricciardo, he's saddled with a team that next year will be fighting with Ferrari for fourth place.

[racechick]

They are free to compete Overboost. It goes like this............., build a car within the rules and put a driver in the car, now race it fast. The one that gets to the end first wins. Mercedes And their driver Lewis Hamilton did that, so they won. Simples.

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They are free to compete Overboost. It goes like this............., build a car within the rules and put a driver in the car, now race it fast. The one that gets to the end first wins. Mercedes And their driver Lewis Hamilton did that, so they won. Simples.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What if there was no engine freeze in 2014? is the scenario.

Thanks.

[racechick]

They are free to compete Overboost. It goes like this............., build a car within the rules and put a driver in the car, now race it fast. The one that gets to the end first wins. Mercedes And their driver Lewis Hamilton did that, so they won. Simples.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What if there was no engine freeze in 2014? is the scenario.

Thanks.

If there were no engine freeze the result would be the same. It took Mercedes two years to develop the engine. ferrari and Renault screwed up. What makes you think they'd suddenly get it all right in a few months if the freeze was lifted? And what of Mercedes? You think they'd just stand still?

[What's Burning?]

They are free to compete Overboost. It goes like this............., build a car within the rules and put a driver in the car, now race it fast. The one that gets to the end first wins. Mercedes And their driver Lewis Hamilton did that, so they won. Simples.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What if there was no engine freeze in 2014? is the scenario.

Thanks.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. What If Ferrari actually made a half decent engine?

[sagi58]

They are free to compete Overboost. It goes like this............., build a car within the rules and put a driver in the car, now race it fast. The one that gets to the end first wins. Mercedes And their driver Lewis Hamilton did that, so they won. Simples.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What if there was no engine freeze in 2014? is the scenario.

Thanks.

If there were no engine freeze the result would be the same. It took Mercedes two years to develop the engine. ferrari and Renault screwed up. What makes you think they'd suddenly get it all right in a few months if the freeze was lifted? And what of Mercedes? You think they'd just stand still?

You're right, there is NO way to know if Ferrari/Renault can catch up!
You're right, there is NO way that Mercedes will sit around waiting.
Sounds to me like there's no problem with lifting the freeze, is there?

[sagi58]

They are free to compete Overboost. It goes like this............., build a car within the rules and put a driver in the car, now race it fast. The one that gets to the end first wins. Mercedes And their driver Lewis Hamilton did that, so they won. Simples.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What if there was no engine freeze in 2014? is the scenario.

Thanks.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. What If Ferrari actually made a half decent engine?

What if Ferrar were given the chance to keep working on one?
What if Mercedes weren't scared they would?

[CookinFlat6]

They are free to compete Overboost. It goes like this............., build a car within the rules and put a driver in the car, now race it fast. The one that gets to the end first wins. Mercedes And their driver Lewis Hamilton did that, so they won. Simples.

Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What if there was no engine freeze in 2014? is the scenario.

Thanks.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. What If Ferrari actually made a half decent engine?

What if Ferrar were given the chance to keep working on one?
What if Mercedes weren't scared they would?

Sagi. Ferrari have had a whole year to improve their engine, same as Merc. What good is having a couple more months? Could it be because the IPO might not be possible before the freeze date? could that be why Ferrari would like an extra couple of months to try catch up with Merc after a whole years development?
Alonso couldnt wait to get the hell away, after a date in October that had been set as a milestone indicative of how much better they had done since the first freeze. The rumour was that the new car was actually 1 sec slower than the current car, maybe why Alonso left the place like he stole something

Lets be sensible, a few months will not make any differenc to their chance of catching Merc, therefore this unfreeze stuff is about trying to sell off Ferrari to the fans who prefer the dream to the reality BEFORE its obvious to all that they have produced the worst engine AGAIN and are stuck with it AGAIN for a whole year
Actually if it was fans buying the shares then I am sure they wouldnt even bother imprving the engine at all, just sell the whole firm and let the new owners worry, but unfortunately analysts will be all over the engine at the freeze and if its a sh!tbox again, they will downgrade the stock, leading to the FCA shareholders dumping theirs leading to a collapse in price down to the correct level for a merchandise, tshirt and caps company that makes a few bespoke sports cars a year

[sagi58]

@ Cookin, your opinion is duly noted and respected as such... an opinion!!