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[texasmr2]

It's good to see your not sitting on the fence as you normally do and are siding with your beloved Ferrari.

MC you know I have alway's agreed with the McLaren camp that Max must go and even being a tifosi I have been more than fair toward's Mclaren by not 'sitting on my Ferrari fence'. I love McLaren as well as Ferrari and do not wish anymore biased hatred via MM to overshadow them and what they mean to me and to F1.

Although I believe you already know this I just wanted to clarify it once more for the record.

[Mikep99]

o, it's not. It's good to see your not sitting on the fence as you normally do and are siding with your beloved Ferrari. Our problem is with the Ferrari lambs who deny Ferrari get preferential treatment, or, even worse, believe it is just that Ferrari get preferential treatment, as well as not giving a flying f*** about any other teams in the sport, of which at least two or three can claim to have done a hell of a lot more for Formula One than the Maranello mob and their FIA buddies. As for all these Ferrari herds you mention, it's very easy to jump on the bandwagon when Ferrari are winning, not so easy when the team were inept. I remember when McLaren were wiping the floor with absolutely everybody, and then when Williams doing the same thing and, borrow in Italy and San Marino, you could barely see a Ferrari fan around. Where was the passion then, Gregg?

Oh I must comment on this one. That to me is a load of crap. Basicaly I have always followed Ferrari and was there and watching races when McLaren and Williams were the best teams. In fact it is this and the fact that at the time Ferrari hadn't won for so long and the fact that I had never been born to of ever had seen Ferrari win anything that fuelled my hate for McLaren more and more. When Ferrari eventually won a Constructors title in 1999 (After 16 years and for me at age 14) and a Drivers Title in 2000 (After 21 years and for me age 15), I was very happy. But to me a win wasn't enough. Ferrari had to keep winning and winning to make up for all those lost years. And so it was never enough for me when Ferrari dominated up until 2004, it wasn't enough that Ferrari won all last year at the expense of McLaren being humilated after the Spygate affair. I want McLaren not to win for at least 10 years and see what it is like as well. Yeah I can see a lot of you McLaren Lambs building up hate towards Ferrari just like I did in the 90s. Good, now you can all finally see how it feels. I hope Ferrari keeps on winning and winning for some time still and when it isn't Ferrari it is BMW, Renault or someone else, just as long as it isn't McLaren.

10 points for honesty.
1 point for content.

It would be boring around here if we all agree.

[AKR]

10 points for honesty.
1 point for content.

It would be boring around here if we all agree.

At times you can be so nasty to me Mike, but you're right it would be right if we all agreed. But having said that I expect non Ferrari supporters and Ferrari haters not to agree with me, not another Ferrari enthusiast. I know we are different in the ways we go for our team but the way I see it is like in football. Go for your team with full passionate and dislike the main rival. The way I am with F1 I am in football. Don't know why you are different given you are Italian as well and Italians are generally passionate, but then again maybe it is because you are a lot older than me. Are you conservative as well when watching football? Do you follow any football? Actually did you go down Norton Street when Italy won World Cup in 2006?

[texasmr2]

A team's main rival should be respected not disliked because that is the sporting and mature way to view them. The world has enough hate in it already and sport's should be a way for all people to come together by having a common interest.

[Mikep99]

10 points for honesty.
1 point for content.

It would be boring around here if we all agree.

At times you can be so nasty to me Mike, but you're right it would be right if we all agreed. But having said that I expect non Ferrari supporters and Ferrari haters not to agree with me, not another Ferrari enthusiast. I know we are different in the ways we go for our team but the way I see it is like in football. Go for your team with full passionate and dislike the main rival. The way I am with F1 I am in football. Don't know why you are different given you are Italian as well and Italians are generally passionate, but then again maybe it is because you are a lot older than me. Are you conservative as well when watching football? Do you follow any football? Actually did you go down Norton Street when Italy won World Cup in 2006?

AKR you’re taking it all wrong I am not being nasty at all.
I passionately follow Ferrari just as much as you but I try my hardest to look at things with an open mind. Ferrari is not perfect just like all the other teams, but all deserve respect.
I don't dislike McLaren as a team one bit. But what I do dislike is how some of the fans react & carry on & cannot accept things when it goes against their team and make feable excuses.
This is my beef & this is also why what you say sometimes doesn’t agree with me either.

But Forza Ferrari & the Azzurri all the way sister.

[deMuRe]

I think DeMuRe is flattering to deceive here. He would have us all believe Ferrari is a true privateer team, despite being bankrolled by FIAT.

They still do everything themselves and they have been in F1 since the first race.

I know it upsets most of you but deal with it...

The lambs are just trying to trivialize what Ferrari has achieved from day one, it makes them feel better.
Ferrari is still building road cars & F1 cars basically the same way Enzo envisaged it. And it seems they are doing a damn good job at both.
Yes these days FIAT is bankrolling the operation & the lambs once again seem to think that this is something to be ashamed of or that it demeans all that Ferrari is.
Yes they should be ashamed of themselves after all the "garagista" (as Enzo would say) are still going down to the local Automart to purchase engines and the like.

Enzo can speak for himself

Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.

The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few.

The client is not always right.

To all the lambs out there

LMFAO!!!

Mike your the best dude...

[darwin dali]

I didn't know that McLaren fans have such a long history and date back to the Flintstones - vrrrrooom!

[Mikep99]

I didn't know that McLaren fans have such a long history and date back to the Flintstones - vrrrrooom!

You learn something new every day DD

[darwin dali]

I didn't know that McLaren fans have such a long history and date back to the Flintstones - vrrrrooom!

You learn something new every day DD

Hm, those slicks were mighty wide

[McLaren Fan]

Michelin made them.

[darwin dali]

Michelin made them.

Nope, you're wrong, they were definitely Firestone!

[McLaren Fan]

From autosport.com:

Prost: Mosley should be judged on ability

By Simon Strang Sunday, May 4th 2008, 15:36 GMT

Alain ProstFour-time world champion Alain Prost believes that Max Mosley should not be judged on the umpalumpa scandal that has prompted an FIA General Extraordinary Meeting in Paris on June 3, but rather on whether he can continue to carry out his duties as FIA president.

Prost, speaking exclusively to autosport.com, said that while the details of the scandal itself are private 'and should not be judged' it was up to the FIA delegates and Formula One's manufacturers to decide whether it affected their ability to work with Mosley.

"Obviously you have a private thing, and I know that everybody says that but it's true," said France's only F1 world champion. "You cannot judge very much the private thing.

"The second thing is the sport, and the effect it is going to have on it. I'm not involved any more. But [when you are an] F1 team manager or a constructor, then you live in the system. You have meetings, and you can judge yourself if it is bad.

"It cannot be good. But is it very bad? Or is it a private thing and we should not interfere?

"Only themselves, they can judge and they can decide what to do."

Prost added that it was crucial, with Mosley holding such a key position within motorsport's governing framework, that the focus of any discussion must remain focussed on his ability to continue to carry on his work unhindered.

He also suggested that the details of the scandal itself should not be used as a reason to oust Mosley from power.

"Some people either like Max or they don't," he said. "He has a lot of friends but he also has a lot of enemies. But you should not use that as a personal affair.

"I think it's only the people involved in the thing, the constructors and the politics, they need to decide if, because there are a lot of very important decisions that have to be made about the sport in general. And Max is a really key person and that is the problem.

"If you cannot talk to him, or you cannot have a close relationship with him, because of that, to make the right decision for the future, for the environment, for the technical decisions, then it becomes a problem.

"Only they can judge and then they have to make the right decision in June, considering this problem."

Mosley maintains he has done nothing wrong and that he has received significant support from the motorsport industry, despite the criticisms issued in statements by Formula One manufacturers Honda, Toyota, BMW, and Mercedes-Benz.

He has also said he is pursuing legal action against the News of the World, the newspaper that sparked the scandal with a front-page expose in March, and plans to donate any damages received to charity.

Mosley recently announced his intention, should he remain in charge, to step down at the end of his term in 2009.

[nikon133]

I think DeMuRe is flattering to deceive here. He would have us all believe Ferrari is a true privateer team, despite being bankrolled by FIAT.

They still do everything themselves and they have been in F1 since the first race.

I know it upsets most of you but deal with it...

The lambs are just trying to trivialize what Ferrari has achieved from day one, it makes them feel better.
Ferrari is still building road cars & F1 cars basically the same way Enzo envisaged it. And it seems they are doing a damn good job at both.
Yes these days FIAT is bankrolling the operation & the lambs once again seem to think that this is something to be ashamed of or that it demeans all that Ferrari is.
Yes they should be ashamed of themselves after all the "garagista" (as Enzo would say) are still going down to the local Automart to purchase engines and the like.

Enzo can speak for himself

Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.

The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few.

The client is not always right.

To all the lambs out there

LMFAO!!!

Mike your the best dude...

It seems there was some mixing on genetic level with Ferrari fans between 1 and 3 years ago...

[bud]

its ok Nikon here is their loyal seal

[Mikep99]

I think DeMuRe is flattering to deceive here. He would have us all believe Ferrari is a true privateer team, despite being bankrolled by FIAT.

They still do everything themselves and they have been in F1 since the first race.

I know it upsets most of you but deal with it...

The lambs are just trying to trivialize what Ferrari has achieved from day one, it makes them feel better.
Ferrari is still building road cars & F1 cars basically the same way Enzo envisaged it. And it seems they are doing a damn good job at both.
Yes these days FIAT is bankrolling the operation & the lambs once again seem to think that this is something to be ashamed of or that it demeans all that Ferrari is.
Yes they should be ashamed of themselves after all the "garagista" (as Enzo would say) are still going down to the local Automart to purchase engines and the like.

Enzo can speak for himself

Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines.

The Ferrari is a dream - people dream of owning this special vehicle and for most people it will remain a dream apart from for those lucky few.

The client is not always right.

To all the lambs out there

LMFAO!!!

Mike your the best dude...

It seems there was some mixing on genetic level with Ferrari fans between 1 and 3 years ago...

I am telling the story nikon

Plus my mate Darwin does not lie. (As in Charles not Deli)