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[racechick]

I also observed the close proximity of Bottas to Hamilton during the initial safety car period. Hamilton had radioed the team asking that Rosberg be told to not make any erratic movements because Hamilton couldn't see him, and Hamilton was leavings a respectable gap. The vision must gave been the same for Bottas...not good...yet he was right on Hamilton's tail.

[myownalias]

You are not a race driver, therefore you're not thinking like one.

You don't know how I think, for all you know I could be a secret weekend racer....

With all the talk of an electronic speed limiter; clearly it can be done from a technical standpoint; but the issue is; for these limiters to work; the driver has to be down to the set speed, e.g. when entering the pit lane for example. Or will it cut power, change gear and brake automatically? Which in itself is inherently dangerous, the possibility of rear ending another driver is a real danger as we know electronics are not foolproof and often fail.

[LH44]

The pitlane limiter is a complimentary system there to assist drivers and make sure they don't exceed the speed limit. The onus is on the driver to reduce their speed on entry. That's why some drivers end up with drive through penalties for exceeding the limit. Drivers would apply a similar speed limit system for double yellow situations the same way they would when entering the pits. I don't see any issues here and drivers regularly follow each other into the pits. If you're daft eneough to push the limiter when doing excessive speeds, then you shouldn't be in F1. I'm sure Kovalainen did this a couple of years ago at McLaren when he was overtaking Alonso and mistakenly pushed the limiter, leaving Ron with egg on his face.

[What's Burning?]

I read something a couple of days ago that the sport didn't even have a SC until 73 and then it wasn't used again till the 80's.

[Jabberwocky]

The idea of Charlie having i bumper car style speed limiter switch is a good idea until you consider going into a 200mph right on the edge and suddenly the engine decides you can not do more that 20mph

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[What's Burning?]

That's the problem when you try to come up with solutions for the exceptional type accidents and events. You can't cover everything, and just like the high noses were and issue now we're complaining of the low noses being an issue. When things are run by committee decisions are usually pretty poor compromises, but the FiA takes this to a whole other level.

[Jabberwocky]

Tbh i think formerF1doc has got ot spot on.

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[What's Burning?]

Tbh i think formerF1doc has got ot spot on.

I agree, but what does he know!

[LH44]

Charlie Whiting wouldn't have to press any speed limiter just like he doesn't set the throttle on cars for the SC delta time. It's simply displayed on the driver information system and the drivers act on it.

Even today, Sergio Perez has come out and confirmed what some of us thought that they lift off as little as they can get away with under double yellows. Max reckons Bianchi was going too fast.

The current system of double yellows is clearly not fit for purpose.

[Jabberwocky]

maybe the Delta should be 300% of your fastest time

[Nin-Chin]

This is good read: http://torquef1.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/the-story-of-roberto-guerrero-and-why-to-keep-every-faith-in-bianchis-recovery/

Insight into Roberto Guerrero injury which was very similar to Bianchi's injury and how he recovered.

[racechick]

What a story of hope! Thanks for posting that Nin Chin. Would be wonderful if that becomes Jules story too!

[ang4f1]

Thanks Nin-Chin for posting that true recovery story....hope that Jules has the same outcome.....

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[vaptin]

Is the delta a fixed value for the race or will it be lowered in conditions?

In any rate, I agree with the general sentiment the delta kinda sets the wrong tone/ encourages the wrong mindset. It just encourages drivers to go as little under it as possible, it's a limit they'll drive too. Possibly opening it up to the drivers judgement might be safer, since it'll force them to look at the road and conditions ahead, more so than being judged on a delta time will.

I'm not arguing this caused the accident, or would have prevented it. Just that the accident highlighted a possible change to make things safer in general.

[LH44]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29573232

FIA race director Charlie Whiting said that Marussia driver Bianchi, 25, like all the drivers, had slowed down, but some had reduced speed more than others. He refused to say by how much Bianchi had slowed. "One of the most important things to learn here is that it is probably better to take the decision to slow down away from the drivers, to have a system where it is clearer to everyone how much we think drivers should slow down."That is what we are working on. "We have a meeting with the teams on Saturday to discuss a way of imposing a speed limit. "It would have the same effect as a safety car because if you slowed everyone down to the same pace they would hold position."But he said it was "highly unlikely" that any new system could be introduced at this weekend's Russian Grand Prix because of the complicated electronics systems on the cars."We have to ensure it works the same way on all the cars," Whiting said."We will be exercising extreme caution as always." he added.

Absolutely correct approach from the FIA here.