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I saw Sutil sliding into the barrier and he seemed to go in slow. Was hoping Jules had done the same. I haven't seen the video but I guess not. Just got to hope like mad he recovers completely.


Just seen it and it wasn't slow, he went under the back of the crane and threw it into the air. Amazing he survived, hope he recovers ok.


He threw the crane in the air?? Jesus!!
It's so so sad, it always is when one of our heros endures such an accident. It's a dangerous sport, and though safety has improved immensely it remains a dangerous sport and accidents will happen. Accidents happen in all walks of life. Wrong place wrong time. But still very sad. I get a little annoyed when I hear people trying to apportion blame. Does anyone think Jules would want that? Jules was doing what he loved. I don't think the race control were at fault here, they did the right thing( unlike Hokenheim) . If anything the race organisers were over cautious with when they started the racing , most drivers were calling for the race to start.
One thing that's crossed my mind, in view of this accident and Maria's accident, when JCB/ transporter type vehicles are on track near race cars, is there some way they can be protected from impact of a race car? Maybe with a mobile tyre wall? Just a thought, tell me if I'm being stupid.


My personal opinion was that the Safety Car should be deployed when there are vehicles track side of the barriers. Purely because as we saw at Interlagos a few years ago if one car can go off in a corner, 2/3/4 can. That said, it was a very unfortunate accident.

Really hope Bianchi recovers from this, been thinking of him all day at work and been checking for updates every time I got the chance to!


EDIT - I've just seen the barriers and it is so unlucky. He hits the JCB as its leaving the track in the gap between the two barriers. A truly horrifying crash, so bad I actually wish I hadn't stumbled across it :(

KEEP FIGHTING JULES!
Last edited by Ferrari man 009 on 06 Oct 14, 19:06, edited 1 time in total.
#419821
Puts the people pushing Sutil's car out of the way in Hockenheim into perspective as there was no safety car deployed there. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. Maybe Sutil is somehow related in all this?
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By LH44
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One thing that's crossed my mind, in view of this accident and Maria's accident, when JCB/ transporter type vehicles are on track near race cars, is there some way they can be protected from impact of a race car? Maybe with a mobile tyre wall? Just a thought, tell me if I'm being stupid.



You could be on to something here and track recovery vehicles could be fitted with some sort of impact protection. F1 cars carry so much forward momentum that even at cruising speeds they could cause serious impact damage. Unlike Sutil, Bianchi went straight off the track and didn't aquaplane backwards and from the video looked to be carrying a bit more speed so he would've felt the full force of the underside of the JCB. Very very unfortunate accident that the deployment of the safety car couldn't have prevented. The race was never going to be red flagged prior to that point as several drivers have indicated that it was safe to continue.
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By LH44
#419827
Puts the people pushing Sutil's car out of the way in Hockenheim into perspective as there was no safety car deployed there. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. Maybe Sutil is somehow related in all this?


There have been a few occasions when the decision not to deploy the SC has been purely a corrupt one aimed at safeguarding the race for certain drivers.

It goes back to the debate about having permanent stewards. It's the only way we can get consistent decisions from SC deployment to the application of penalties for driving infringements etc. At the moment, every event is subject to local influence and this should not be the case.
#419828
Don't know if anyone has seen, but there is a wear red for Jules day tomorrow. I will be wearing a red tie to work (all i'll get away with to be honest) to show my support for Jules. Just thought I'd help spread the word here :)
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By Stephen
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I didn't want to see the video until I knew Jules was ok but Facebook had other ideas this afternoon (auto-running video).

Having seen it I'm really shocked, especially at the speed and subsequent force in which he hits the recovery vehicle. Whilst I know the roll hoop was removed in the accident, it looks as if his helmet didn't take a direct hit with the side of the digger. Whether that's my poor eyes or reality I don't know but I hope he emerges from this.

As for the GP itself, right from the outset it felt like a bad idea. I also can't remember a race with so little rhythm. Odd.
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By stonemonkey
#419831

One thing that's crossed my mind, in view of this accident and Maria's accident, when JCB/ transporter type vehicles are on track near race cars, is there some way they can be protected from impact of a race car? Maybe with a mobile tyre wall? Just a thought, tell me if I'm being stupid.



You could be on to something here and track recovery vehicles could be fitted with some sort of impact protection. F1 cars carry so much forward momentum that even at cruising speeds they could cause serious impact damage. Unlike Sutil, Bianchi went straight off the track and didn't aquaplane backwards and from the video looked to be carrying a bit more speed so he would've felt the full force of the underside of the JCB. Very very unfortunate accident that the deployment of the safety car couldn't have prevented. The race was never going to be red flagged prior to that point as several drivers have indicated that it was safe to continue.


I dont see why the safety car couldnt have prevented this, everyone has to slow down so there'd be less chance of going off and if he did go off he wouldn't be going anywhere near as fast.
Another solution i can think of would be to use cranes with longer booms that could stay behind the tyre walls, they wouldnt be able to use them everywhere and still couldn't reach cars stranded further away and the marshalls would still have to go out to sling the cars.
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By LH44
#419832
A Caterham span at the start when the SC was leading the pack so no I'm not sure it would've helped there. Most cars would've been driving to a delta time. Sutil's crash was rightly covered under double waves yellows IMO which means slow down and be prepared to stop.
By vaptin
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Marussia driver Jules Bianchi's condition is "critical but stable" following his crash in the Japanese GP, world motorsport's governing body the FIA has told BBC Sport.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29503730

Hopefully he will be OK, which is the first thing. But tbh, I also hope after that, that he can get back into F1 racing, he's a top talent.
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By Frontrunner
#419918
Same here, just seen that Vid and my face was like :yikes: here's hoping he can just live a normal life, let alone race a f1 car again.
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By oaba09
#419936
Same here, just seen that Vid and my face was like :yikes: here's hoping he can just live a normal life, let alone race a f1 car again.


Yup...being able to live normally is most important...going back to racing is just secondary..
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