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#41562
:D :D Nice one Lewis! :D:D I will resist the temptation to reply in kind to the title of the thread. Ferrari's look good but not THAT much faster. Hope Kovi is ok-think he is


Unfortunately Ferrari IS faster at present - you are forgetting 2 safety cars that reduced distance between drivers to zero. From what I've heard during the race, Ferrari was half a second faster per lap. That is a lot.

That being said, Lewis managed to use full potential the car can provide at present. Spotless race (and with the car that didn't look so easy and comfortable to drive). Hopefully he'll stay that consistent for the rest of championship.
#41571
:D :D Nice one Lewis! :D:D I will resist the temptation to reply in kind to the title of the thread. Ferrari's look good but not THAT much faster. Hope Kovi is ok-think he is


Unfortunately Ferrari IS faster at present - you are forgetting 2 safety cars that reduced distance between drivers to zero. From what I've heard during the race, Ferrari was half a second faster per lap. That is a lot.

That being said, Lewis managed to use full potential the car can provide at present. Spotless race (and with the car that didn't look so easy and comfortable to drive). Hopefully he'll stay that consistent for the rest of championship.

It was a Ferrari track as will the next one be. But they arent all going to be. I dispute half a second Id say 3tenths. He was 2 seconds from Massa at the end, even accounting for the safety cars thats not a half a second better car. And as you pointed out Lewis can usually overcome some of the deficit.
#41584
I dispute half a second Id say 3tenths. He was 2 seconds from Massa at the end, even accounting for the safety cars thats not a half a second better car. And as you pointed out Lewis can usually overcome some of the deficit.


Are you seriously taking the 2 seconds gap at the end as the measuring stick??
E.g., KR's fastest lap (lap 46) was 1:21.670, his last lap was 1:23.625 - 2 seconds slower. So, wouldn't you agree that the Ferraris slowed down considerably toward the end to drive the car home? And wouldn't that make a substantial difference in the final gap?
#41585
I dispute half a second Id say 3tenths. He was 2 seconds from Massa at the end, even accounting for the safety cars thats not a half a second better car. And as you pointed out Lewis can usually overcome some of the deficit.


Are you seriously taking the 2 seconds gap at the end as the measuring stick??
E.g., KR's fastest lap (lap 46) was 1:21.670, his last lap was 1:23.625 - 2 seconds slower. So, wouldn't you agree that the Ferraris slowed down considerably toward the end to drive the car home? And wouldn't that make a substantial difference in the final gap?


There... no need to repeat.
#41653
I dispute half a second Id say 3tenths. He was 2 seconds from Massa at the end, even accounting for the safety cars thats not a half a second better car. And as you pointed out Lewis can usually overcome some of the deficit.


Are you seriously taking the 2 seconds gap at the end as the measuring stick??
E.g., KR's fastest lap (lap 46) was 1:21.670, his last lap was 1:23.625 - 2 seconds slower. So, wouldn't you agree that the Ferraris slowed down considerably toward the end to drive the car home? And wouldn't that make a substantial difference in the final gap?


No I wasnt only taking the gap at the end as a measuring stick :roll: I was looking at all sorts of things- quali times, sector times on different tyres. Times in the middle of the race when The Ferrari's werent slowing because theyd had their early advantage eroded by the safety car and were having to push. Kimi was a lot faster no doubt and did slow down at the end, yes that is clear, Not so much Massa though . I still say the gap was more like 3tenths and on a Ferrari track.
#41662
I dispute half a second Id say 3tenths. He was 2 seconds from Massa at the end, even accounting for the safety cars thats not a half a second better car. And as you pointed out Lewis can usually overcome some of the deficit.


Are you seriously taking the 2 seconds gap at the end as the measuring stick??
E.g., KR's fastest lap (lap 46) was 1:21.670, his last lap was 1:23.625 - 2 seconds slower. So, wouldn't you agree that the Ferraris slowed down considerably toward the end to drive the car home? And wouldn't that make a substantial difference in the final gap?


No I wasnt only taking the gap at the end as a measuring stick :roll: I was looking at all sorts of things- quali times, sector times on different tyres. Times in the middle of the race when The Ferrari's werent slowing because theyd had their early advantage eroded by the safety car and were having to push. Kimi was a lot faster no doubt and did slow down at the end, yes that is clear, Not so much Massa though . I still say the gap was more like 3tenths and on a Ferrari track.

It's beginning to look like EVERY track is a Ferrari track now!
#41664
I dispute half a second Id say 3tenths. He was 2 seconds from Massa at the end, even accounting for the safety cars thats not a half a second better car. And as you pointed out Lewis can usually overcome some of the deficit.


Are you seriously taking the 2 seconds gap at the end as the measuring stick??
E.g., KR's fastest lap (lap 46) was 1:21.670, his last lap was 1:23.625 - 2 seconds slower. So, wouldn't you agree that the Ferraris slowed down considerably toward the end to drive the car home? And wouldn't that make a substantial difference in the final gap?


No I wasnt only taking the gap at the end as a measuring stick :roll: I was looking at all sorts of things- quali times, sector times on different tyres. Times in the middle of the race when The Ferrari's werent slowing because theyd had their early advantage eroded by the safety car and were having to push. Kimi was a lot faster no doubt and did slow down at the end, yes that is clear, Not so much Massa though . I still say the gap was more like 3tenths and on a Ferrari track.

It's beginning to look like EVERY track is a Ferrari track now!

The first one wasnt. Monaco won't be.
#41671
I dispute half a second Id say 3tenths. He was 2 seconds from Massa at the end, even accounting for the safety cars thats not a half a second better car. And as you pointed out Lewis can usually overcome some of the deficit.


Are you seriously taking the 2 seconds gap at the end as the measuring stick??
E.g., KR's fastest lap (lap 46) was 1:21.670, his last lap was 1:23.625 - 2 seconds slower. So, wouldn't you agree that the Ferraris slowed down considerably toward the end to drive the car home? And wouldn't that make a substantial difference in the final gap?


No I wasnt only taking the gap at the end as a measuring stick :roll: I was looking at all sorts of things- quali times, sector times on different tyres. Times in the middle of the race when The Ferrari's werent slowing because theyd had their early advantage eroded by the safety car and were having to push. Kimi was a lot faster no doubt and did slow down at the end, yes that is clear, Not so much Massa though . I still say the gap was more like 3tenths and on a Ferrari track.

It's beginning to look like EVERY track is a Ferrari track now!

The first one wasnt. Monaco won't be.

Ferrari did shorten their '08 chassis from last year's '07 chassis, which was terrible on tight roadcourse's such as Monaco, so I guess we will see right? :wink: PP is usually dominant there anyway so it will be a very exciting battle to say the least.
#41672
I think my money is on Heidfeld to win at either Monaco or Montreal, Kovalainen at the other. The Ferrari showed bursts of good speed at Melbourne, but using that race to judge the form of any car is, to be honest, not the best idea. So many things went on that the actual figures are masked.
#41681
I don't think so, Tex. He's an aggressive driver who will want to take a lot of overtaking opportunities to do so, so there is a big risk of him (and many, many others) being taken out as they fight for victory. Meanwhile, Heidfeld will calmly cruise to victory. That is, if Kovy doesn't beat him to it :P
#41689
I don't think so, Tex. He's an aggressive driver who will want to take a lot of overtaking opportunities to do so, so there is a big risk of him (and many, many others) being taken out as they fight for victory. Meanwhile, Heidfeld will calmly cruise to victory. That is, if Kovy doesn't beat him to it :P

I really like all of them so I would be happy either way.
#41696
Kubica for the win at Monaco!!! 8) I really want to see him win THIS season and Monaco could be the track!


But he might have to first fix his nose in order to be able to win :roll:
#41706
Lewis for the win at Monaco. He was a country mile ahead of Alonso last year if you factor in the favoured Alonso strategy and the fuel difference.
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