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#416377
i'm sorry for ferrari's Alonso e Kimi, they aren't a fast car, on the monza gp is very important the speed, Williams's Massa and Bottas were very fast on the straights.
sorry for my bad english :rolleyes:


mate, your English is better than the average native English poster on the internet nowadays so I wouldnt worry

(that possibly includes me)
#416378
I actually thought Lewis made 1 big mistake, he let Nico off too lightly. Anyone with a cerebral tactical mind should have been aware Nico doesnt much like it when he has Lewis behind - so Lewis should have only put the pressure on at places where Nico cracking would have caused a dnf. To put pressure on before the chicane let Nico off the hook. I was screaming at Lewis for being so stupid.

And then he compounded the mistake by pulling away, he really should have let Nico back in front then gave him another 5 laps of gearbox psychoanalysis - this is likely to have caused a properly spooked and unhinged Nico to drive off track permanently - his subconscious mind shutting down and refusing to race on

I mean whats the point of pulling away? to show the world you are 0.3 seconds quicker in a faulty car than your teammate? should THINK more and act instinctively LESS


So you finally subscribed to the services of http://www.roth-analysis4u.com ?

Oops, his website is down right now. :hehe:
#416390
i'm sorry for ferrari's Alonso e Kimi, they aren't a fast car, on the monza gp is very important the speed, Williams's Massa and Bottas were very fast on the straights.
sorry for my bad english :rolleyes:


mate, your English is better than the average native English poster on the internet nowadays so I wouldnt worry

(that possibly includes me)


thank you very much!!!!!
#416391
i'm sorry for ferrari's Alonso e Kimi, they aren't a fast car, on the monza gp is very important the speed, Williams's Massa and Bottas were very fast on the straights.
sorry for my bad english :rolleyes:


mate, your English is better than the average native English poster on the internet nowadays so I wouldnt worry

(that possibly includes me)


thank you very much!!!!!


all that is important is the message you are giving us - and that makes good sense :thumbup:
#416392
i'm sorry for ferrari's Alonso e Kimi, they aren't a fast car, on the monza gp is very important the speed, Williams's Massa and Bottas were very fast on the straights.
sorry for my bad english :rolleyes:


mate, your English is better than the average native English poster on the internet nowadays so I wouldnt worry

(that possibly includes me)


thank you very much!!!!!


all that is important is the message you are giving us - and that makes good sense :thumbup:

:thumbup::rofl:
#416397
Sorry guys, I was at my other site http://www.iamtiredofbitchslappingfanboys.com


errm, but hold on roth - you have grouped ALL Lewis fans as deluded fanboys, and you have also professed to actually being a Lewis fan yourself :confused:

Government mental health advice - Self flagellation may be unsafe and can lead to future identity crises


Yeah...I thought he was a Lewis fan? OMG DID HE LIE? :eek:

Maybe Dr. Roth needs a mental examination to get his bipolar characteristics sorted out ASAP.
#416402

Nice try, but no he didn't hit a wrong switch, they were trying to rest things from the pits. His 'race start' was reading on when it shouldn't have been. He had no power on the start..not wheel spin..NO POWER. The race mode wasn't working. Ok? and on the topic of starts, Ricciardo's was poor, very poor. I'm not wanting to take anything from Ricci here, because he drove a brilliant race! I'm just wanting to help you take off the anti Hamilton glasses and see what actually happened in the race,


I guess we are both having misconceptions about what happened. It wasn't a lack of power, it was too much and Hamilton couldn't control it.

.

I saw the quote where Lewis said they've never practised starts like that with the software not working and that he had to just floor it and hope for the best. But in the after analysis I watched they said it wasn't wheel spin but a lack of power and Lewis did really well to only loose three places.
But my main point was that there was no error on Lewis' part as you initially claimed.
#416406
Look at the first minute of this (UK users only): http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/29100402

In the first minute of the video
    (i) Button overtakes Pérez in turn 1
    (ii) Pérez in the slipstream of Button goes to the right on the exit of turn 3
    (iii) Freeze the video at 31 seconds, it is clear that Button's front right tyre is ahead of Pérez's front left tyre in turn 4
    (iv) Freeze the video at 32 seconds, it is clear that Pérez goes outside the track limits and Button stays inside the track limits in turn 5
    (v) Pérez comes back onto the track ahead of Button, keeps him behind for all it's worth

Pérez got ahead of Button in this moment because he missed the turn and used the runoff, that is the change in position was illegal.
So Pérez was required to forfeit the place or receive a punishment. No punishment was given, why?


I have seen the following arguments around the internet:
    (1) Button missed the turn himself
    (2) Button left no room for Pérez
    (3) Button forced Pérez off track

You see in the video the Button did not go off track (iv) so the 1st argument is proved incorrect

Regarding the 2nd argument, it is clear that Pérez was never going to overtake Button in turn 5 because he was disadvantaged with worse track position in turn 4 (iii).
Button is under no obligation to go wide in turn 5 to let Pérez overtake.
Even if this argument is correct since when does that give Pérez the right to overtake using the runoff and keep the place? It doesn't.

Regarding the 3rd argument, it may be correct Pérez was forced off track looking at it but I am unconvinced that it was Button who forced him because Button was taking the normal line which he is entitled to do. Pérez really forced himself off in his desparate attempt to regain the place.


This incident should have been investigated and I believe a punishment should have been given to Pérez once it was clear he was not going to give up the place.
It could make a world of difference, just look at the constructors points:
5th McLaren-Mercedes 110 pts
6th Force India-Mercedes 109 pts
#416410
A WDC led Mclaren team should not be toe to toe with a Jordan team led by guys who have not even won a race

maybe the stewards considered this and decided Button was being lame and inviting a penalty for Perez instead of just trying to go fast. When a young driver is bold enough to outdrive the most experienced WDCs on the grid benefit of doubt surely needs to go to the young guy, otherwise rookies would just give up. Some experienced yet lame drivers like Massa play the stewards by trying to make the rookies look crazy. So its possible that in this case Warwick decided that Button is a twat and gave perez the benefit of that wisdom
#416450
Now that LH has twice now 'disobeyed' team orders, albeit correct decisions, you have to wonder if that will harm him regarding his team/bosses moving forward. I'm thinking it could hurt his trust when it comes to team strategy.
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