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By What's Burning?
#415682
Wouldn't this be Hamilton potentially atoning for Nico's sins?

It's also a draconian stance over a minor incident that Mercedes could have avoided with better driver management.

Are you sure it's not all Lewis' fault?
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By Roth
#415701
Wouldn't this be Hamilton potentially atoning for Nico's sins?

It's also a draconian stance over a minor incident that Mercedes could have avoided with better driver management.

Are you sure it's not all Lewis' fault?


The whole situation is a farce. Hamilton is by far the least to blame, he was a victim on the track, but he's certainly not blameless in the aftermath.
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By Roth
#415710
Well they didnt avoid it and now have to repair the damage which is what thats about


It's ridiculous that they're ricocheting between management styles, like a long time ago they ran all the technical data though a computer to get the best results,
but forgot to take into consideration that humans can be idiots. They've reacted in completely the wrong way. They should want to impart stability but they're
in danger of looking like weak parents with unwieldy kids. It's not merely an oversight, it's fundamentally poor planning.
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By racechick
#415717
Lewis is not blameless in the aftermath? How do you work that one out? He sounds pretty reasonable on his BBC slot for a guy who's been pissed over all season by unreliability and a cheating team mate.

What's he supposed to say? 'hey guys! I love being shat on by everyone, bring it on!'
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By Roth
#415782
Lewis is not blameless in the aftermath? How do you work that one out? He sounds pretty reasonable on his BBC slot for a guy who's been pissed over all season by unreliability and a cheating team mate.

What's he supposed to say? 'hey guys! I love being shat on by everyone, bring it on!'


He should have said nothing. Stonewalling leading questions would serve him better. His comment right after the Spa team meeting wasn't his best choice of words. He interpreted Rosberg's words in his own emotionally heightened frustrated state. He knows everyone is listening, and that whatever he says will be repeated ad infinitum. All his fanboys stopped listening after that point, that's all they needed. It was either an excellently thought out PR stunt, or a slightly rash statement.

He was great in the press conference yesterday, he knows what to say and how to say it at the start of the weekend, but his emotions gradually get the better of him, depending on how crappy his weekend is going, to the detrement of comon sense. He needs to hold his tongue, make no silly remarks, not just less silly remarks.

Like I said above, Lauda, Wolff, Nico, whover pulls the strings at Merc have all ballsed this up over the last two weeks. It's embarrasing. Hamilton could have held himself and let them shoot themselves in the foot.
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By racechick
#415797
So you're saying he was either 'excellent' or he was 'rash' you're not sure which, but what he should have done was 'stonewalled' . And had he taken that option, in would have swooped the usual suspects calling him sulky. That's what happens when he doesn't answer press questions, when he holds back, he's called sulky.

And why should he shut up? He'd just found out he'd been deliberately taken out of race by his team mate. I just don't get the outrage that Hamilton actually said what happenned. He had points taken from him unfairly ( that was stepping up to championship status in some people's eyes) but for CHRISTSAKE don't tel, anyone what happened.
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By Roth
#415806
He interepreted Nico as saying 'he hit me on purpose'. So it was either him knowing full well that statement would enflame the press and fans and know that's exactly what they would be talking about, even if it wasn't exactly true, and play into his hands; or he came out and in an emotional state and tried to sum it up. The result is the same, so it doesn't matter now, but it could be taken either way. And stonewalling doesn't have to be sulky, and not talking. It can be not giving the press what the story they want because whatever you say will be misinterpreted.

Why should he care if he gets called sulky? He's been in this position long enough you'd expect it to be water off a duck's back. Don't say anything, let them infer all they want. But once you've said something it's there for all to see. He doesn't have to tell us what happened, we can see that. We saw it better than he did. He's stewing the whole race thinking the motherf***er hit me, meanwhile we see endless replays of a racing incident. Then the press go gangbusters because that's their job.

It's not outrage at Hamilton, that's completely OTT, it's perhaps being baffled that he hasn't really learnt how to deal with the press despite being the sport's drawcard for controversy for so long. It's not he has to shut up, he should just be more pragamtic in instances where he is in no way to blame. Monaco was the same. He lost the moral advantage by playing the victim. And it's not even like he overplays the card, he makes one or two slips and that's what is blown out of proportion. That's the nature of his relationship with the world at large. It's like his qualifying. Most of the lap he's spot on then a small mistake, and he's lost pole.
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By racechick
#415809
He's tried shutting up , not answering, and he's called sulky. And it's not water off a ducks back with Lewis, he IS bothered what people think, particularly his fans. It's why he was distraught at Silverstone, he felt he'd let down his fans there ( again he was misinterpreted as sulky). But that's who he is and it's one of the reasons he has so many fans around the world.

You are right, he doesn't overplay the card, he just says what he sees, and he IS the victim.

And there's always the possibility that you were right when you said it was an excellent pr stunt. The more people aware of Tosberg's cheating , the more he will have to curb it.
By CookinFlat6
#415835
He interepreted Nico as saying 'he hit me on purpose'. So it was either him knowing full well that statement would enflame the press and fans and know that's exactly what they would be talking about, even if it wasn't exactly true, and play into his hands; or he came out and in an emotional state and tried to sum it up. The result is the same, so it doesn't matter now, but it could be taken either way. And stonewalling doesn't have to be sulky, and not talking. It can be not giving the press what the story they want because whatever you say will be misinterpreted.


Are you serious?????

Have you ever driven a car in a race against someone else when there was only enough space for one???

How can you say it was the wrong interpretation?/ its like someone else saying Toto didnt blame Nico after the race

Nico DID NOT AVOID the crash - the only difference between 'I hit him on purpose' and 'I did not avoid contact' is like a doctor saying 'I didnt kill my patient, I just stopped giving them certain injections' Attempting an overtake thats not possible to complete even if the guy in front pulls out is the same as 'I wont make it then you wont make it' so do something outside any normal driving - back out completely

All season they raced hard - never touched because Nico always backed off when he was behind and couldn't make it stick and Lewis never even tried when behind and he couldnt make it stick - then in Spa Nico stopped and became 'if I dont pass we both go off' and Lewis had to stay quiet and and not alert the stewards? And ha8terz would be saying he needs to stand up for himself and be more clever like Alonso in alerting Charlie etc

In light of Nicos 'shame' there is only one conclusion and onlt blind h8terz cant see how embarrassing it is for them to keep displaying ignorance

Denial IS NOT a river in Egypt roth
By CookinFlat6
#415839
another happy day in lalaland folks - where all dreams are possible - Lewis has been very clever or completely dumb - but its the same outcome :thumbup:
By Hammer278
#415890
Bit late to the party but woohoo!! Lewis back on pole since....MAY! :yikes:

And what advertizing for Merc....top 6 lockout, goddamn if that isn't advertizing I don't know what is. :hehe:
By What's Burning?
#415892
another happy day in fanboyland folks - where Lewis can never ever do anything wrong.

You being such a great fan of his, I'm sure you have a laundry list of things he did wrong today. Please do share.
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