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[racechick]

And Lewis had some fuel injection issue.

[What's Burning?]

Fuel pressure... Mercedes has to sort out a lot of issues. Since Canada they've had failures in one or both cars every GP.

[CookinFlat6]

Hmmn, still seems like a lame excuse - my brakes didnt work so he got past

It was fun posting outlandish theories not grounded on any facts, just on a 'this is what I think this moment, I will change my mind in the next post anyway' till you had to spoil it WB

i was just about to decide Seb spun because his new wife didnt give him any the night before

[What's Burning?]

Someone has to remain credible.

[Roth]

Hamilton & Nico, you're always knocking Hamilton and praising up Nico Rosberg.

Yes, that's all I do.

I didn't say you was, Hamilton too had brake issues though so this is equal. Vergne did NOT get past because of Rosbergs brakes, Vergne got past because he outraced Nico.

Again you're bringing in Hamilton to a different scenario as a defence of your point. This is Rosberg and Vergne. How can you categorically state it wasn't a brakes issue, at the exact time Rosberg was having a brake issues?

Rosberg had less dirty air, more grip and failed he pitted lap 33 just so he was ahead of Rosberg after both had pitted. He never mentioned that his tyres were shot and they looked fine when he pitted, a bit of wear but nothing that bad.

That would be an excellent point on a dry track. Your points all seem to have the parameters of it was a normal dry race and Nico couldn't hack it. I said Nico could have done better, but it's not as cut and dried as you make it. You've taken the same mindset as cookie which is I hate Hamilton and everything leads off from that point. Read back over what I've said in the race thread and here and see what I write, instead of going off on the wrong track.

It's hard to explain but basically DRS doesn't give you that big of an advantage to overtake but if you're trying to overtake a car without drs you should be pretty close to making a move every time, so when the caterpillar effect is happening with a car in front of you using DRS it's impossible.

Yes. What's your point? Hamilton was overtaking two cars at once in Germany. Why wasn't he doing that here? The conditions were different, I'd say, so a bold statement with the word 'impossible' in is a bit OTT.

Hamilton vs Rosberg was exactly the same scenario as Rosberg vs Vergne just with Hamilton's car, tyres being much hotter and both Hamilton and Vergne having older tyres. Rosberg SHOULD have overtaken Vergne but failed. Hamilton showed who's the better driver straight away.

So they're exactly the same apart from all the things that make it different? Every time a car comes upon another car it's different, esp on a drying track. Then you bring in Ham v Vergne for what reason?

I and plenty of others know I'm correct, your blind hatred for Hamilton is beyond pathetic.

For somebody who professes, Alonso apart, impartiality across the grid you're getting awfully steamed up. Now, i know you're a young guy, I've seen your picture, you've said you're quite shy. You don't look like a typical tough guy but you're coming across all Jason Statham, so what is this attitude towards me? Is this the inner RyRy breaking out?

[CookinFlat6]

Here we go again - why divert focus onto RyRy and his character or photo? Whats wrong with sticking to the topic in hand?

I dunno, after the Germany race carve up - Lewis was sloppy, desperate and impatient according to you

and after the Hungary race carve up - Lewis was lucky with tyres and safety car and vergne was a champion driver in a better car in the conditions and Nicos car was broken because of the brake 'failure' for about 10 seconds as he got over taken

And you are a Button fan who talks about Lewis - nothing good all the time

And you initially told us you were a Lewis fan and that was why you were obliged to be so hard on him

and you are much misunderstood right?

I keep pointing out to you roth that it cannot be a coincidence that so many diverse individuals take umbrage at your behaviour. So far in each case according to you its the others who have psychological issues etc who are fanboys etc etc, whats the common link with all these 'wierd' members who pick holes in your 'theories?'

[Roth]

Why am I a Button fan? Because I wonder why you endlessly bash him?

There's this playground scenario you keep playing out.

Cookie picks on a girl. I wonder why you're doing it. Cookie says, why, do you love her? I say, no, it just makes you look like a pr*ck. Cookie marches off chanting Roth loves (insert name here).

I've said it's a very pro-Hamilton forum, and as a general rule it takes criticism harshly. You see devils where they don't exist. You endlessly assume I sit out of the camp throwing rocks, simply because you sit endlessly in the camp expecting rocks to be thrown.

[Roth]

And i Mentioned Ry's picture because he doesn't look like the guy who would give you a lot of agro in real life, so why do it on the internet? I apologise to Ry if he actually is a hard man and I've got it all wrong.

[Hammer278]

And i Mentioned Ry's picture because he doesn't look like the guy who would give you a lot of agro in real life, so why do it on the internet? I apologise to Ry if he actually is a hard man and I've got it all wrong.

It doesn't matter if Ryry is a hard man, a softie or a cat which types on a keyboard. He put forward his points on why you were talking rubbish and your bias is clearly shown through your words...and you're asking him if he's a tough guy or a soft guy and why the 'attitude'.

When I responded to you, it was a 'rant', when Ryry does it, he's got some 'attitude', when Cookin says something, he's 'paranoid'. There's a pattern here...maybe you just can't do a debate. And stop pretending to be an unbiased fan, like I said before it's getting old and tired. If you can't stand Hamilton, it's all fair and good. There's not crime in it. It's like a freakin hyena trying to convince the jungle he's a tiger. Give it a rest.

[Roth]

And i Mentioned Ry's picture because he doesn't look like the guy who would give you a lot of agro in real life, so why do it on the internet? I apologise to Ry if he actually is a hard man and I've got it all wrong.

It doesn't matter if Ryry is a hard man, a softie or a cat which types on a keyboard. He put forward his points on why you were talking rubbish and your bias is clearly shown through your words...and you're asking him if he's a tough guy or a soft guy and why the 'attitude'.

When I responded to you, it was a 'rant', when Ryry does it, he's got some 'attitude', when Cookin says something, he's 'paranoid'. There's a pattern here...maybe you just can't do a debate. And stop pretending to be an unbiased fan, like I said before it's getting old and tired. If you can't stand Hamilton, it's all fair and good. There's not crime in it. It's like a freakin hyena trying to convince the jungle he's a tiger. Give it a rest.

If you all get a bit hot under the collar I'm going to call you on it. Don't all get hot under the collar and I won't have the reason to say you are. Cookie equates me to a paedophile and bigot, WB starts on my home life, Ry calls me pathetic and you get frothy when I put a direct Hamilton quote that doesn't gel with your opinion on how he drove. So, yes, there's a pattern. You lot get steamy, I stay calm, despite the odds being very much in your favour.

[Hammer278]

Yes, the society is crazy and I'm perfect, since all I do is stay at home and play tambourines all day.

Classic.

[Hammer278]

Lol this one is funny:

Some really pissed off dude changed the entries in wikipedia for 2014 season.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/news/wik ... =soc_fcbks

[Roth]

Yes, the society is crazy and I'm perfect, since all I do is stay at home and play tambourines all day.

Classic.

I forgot facetious.

[racechick]

What's Ryry's personality got to do with anything? And his age? And how he looks? let's stick to arguing the point.

Your perception of the forum being pro Hamilton is probably arrived at Because Hamilton supporters on here( and on Twitter, and on the Merc Facebook page and on other forums) won't just shut up and lie down when Hamilton is unfairly attacked. Why? Because we've had practise ever since he first joined F1 at defending him against ( we don't like his dad, he's only doing well because he's in a McLaren, he's spoilt, anyone could do what he does, he makes mistakes all the time, he's sulky, he's arrogant, he's favoured, he cant focus, he's thick, he can't save tyres, he can't think through a race, he won't be able to petrol save, he's only interested in music, he's a waster, he doesn't work with the mechanics, he can't set the car up, he's distracted by his dogs, he's distracted by his friends, he just wants to party, we don't like his clothes, his girlfriends a whore, she's bad for him, we don't like his earrings, etc etc etc)

When we pick that sh!t up on the radar we home in. Maybe we go in too hard? Maybe we are over defensive? but it comes as I say from years of practise. We support Lewis and will always defend against the unfair things that are said.

You know what I think Roth? I believe you when you say you like Hamilton but wanted to point out things you felt about him. That's your opinion and that's fine ( I disagree but that's fine too) . I then think that in defending your stance against the backlash, you went too far and backed yourself into a corner, a corner that isn't really of your choosing and doesn't really represent your position. Just my thoughts there.

[Hammer278]

Waiting for Dr Roth to see where that post is being classified, under "rant", "attitude issue" or "paranoia".