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[Denthúl]

Whats open to debate? that only Ferrari are invited to comment and make recommendations on rule changes, no other team is? Open to debate my backside!
Give it to Stewart with Hill as deputy, my vote.
As soon as Mosely goes, we will see a shift away from Ferrari but Bernie will still try and pull the strings for them (and it's not hard to work out why, money). We need someone like Stewart, someone with a healthy respect for Ferrari and it's achievements, but also someone who respects the other teams just as much.
I cant wait until FIAt falls apart and we see Ferrari racing it's best against the other teams best, and the same rules apply to all.

You'll be waiting a long time. Max isn't going anywhere unless Ferrari condem him and by the sounds of things that isn't going to happen. And when Mosley eventually decides to retire on his own terms, then I am quite sure Ferrari will influence who succeeds him and then Max Mosley the Second will rule along side Ferrari once again. Face it all non Ferrari followers, F1 is all about Ferrari. Look it is even called "F1", the "F" really standing for "Ferrari" and the 1 as in "Number 1". So it is "Ferrari Number 1 aka F1" and tough if you don't like it. VIVA FERRARI, VIVA MOSLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't see how you could enjoy a 'victory' that a team did not achieve on its own, to be honest. I'd find it all empty and worthless and stuff...

[McLaren Fan]

Personally, a win would mean less to me if I knew I got it due to help from somebody else, but Ferrari don't have that mentality. At the end of the day, you can't really blame them for taking whatever advantages are being given to them. The blame lies with the FIA who have sponsored and endorsed Ferrari's nefarious deeds for decades.

[phren]

Whats open to debate? that only Ferrari are invited to comment and make recommendations on rule changes, no other team is? Open to debate my backside!Give it to Stewart with Hill as deputy, my vote.
As soon as Mosely goes, we will see a shift away from Ferrari but Bernie will still try and pull the strings for them (and it's not hard to work out why, money). We need someone like Stewart, someone with a healthy respect for Ferrari and it's achievements, but also someone who respects the other teams just as much.
I cant wait until FIAt falls apart and we see Ferrari racing it's best against the other teams best, and the same rules apply to all.

By any chance would that be the same backside you have your head firmly imbeded in
There is one thing for sure which is NOT open to debate. And that is that your posts are like a broken record - And thats the facts You must use copy and paste heaps.

BOZO go ahead make my day:

Micky Baby
Seems like the majority of your posts are simply in reply to mine, I'm begining to wonder why?
You also seem to have an unhealthy obsession with my bottom. Thats not a good look for an Ocker now is it?
I suppose I should let you know I dont swing that way. If you want to wear those red leather trousers and your Ferrari bomber jacket around Kings Cross thats your choice. But you have to let this obsession with my rear go.
Cmon Micky, you can spell some words, and recognise the difference between an Apple and a car now. You could get a job gathering up supermarket trolleys or something, it will get you out of the day centre.
By the way "Your ugly Brutus", Classic.

[Mikep99]

Micky Baby
Seems like the majority of your posts are simply in reply to mine, I'm begining to wonder why?
You also seem to have an unhealthy obsession with my bottom. Thats not a good look for an Ocker now is it?
I suppose I should let you know I dont swing that way. If you want to wear those red leather trousers and your Ferrari bomber jacket around Kings Cross thats your choice. But you have to let this obsession with my rear go.
Cmon Micky, you can spell some words, and recognise the difference between an Apple and a car now. You could get a job gathering up supermarket trolleys or something, it will get you out of the day centre.
By the way "Your ugly Brutus", Classic.

Mate how did you know I majored in supermarket trolleyology

That Ignore button did not last long. But I will give it to you though you have some powerfull self restraint. I would have only lasted an hour or so. Welcome back I missed you.

So tell me mate was that an example of your mastery at doing better, not being weak & poor, not being a parrot, not looking foolish, showing pathos, being witty, parrying, lunging, being under no pressure, & finally being a lap in front
Boy I have really been put in my place haven’t I.
But I still get the impression from your post your taking me 100% serious. Lighten up man your just waving a red flag to a bull.
I am looking forward to your next post. So SURPRISE me.

By the way. Now back to talking about bottoms and Max again Max’s arse is RED and it does not look like a FIAt either

[deMuRe]

Refresh my memory about his indiscretion at the beginning of his career?

As a young mechanic he was caught running down the pitlane with a spanner in his hand to change the settings on an engine after the race and before scrutineering...

[phren]

Micky Baby
Seems like the majority of your posts are simply in reply to mine, I'm begining to wonder why?
You also seem to have an unhealthy obsession with my bottom. Thats not a good look for an Ocker now is it?
I suppose I should let you know I dont swing that way. If you want to wear those red leather trousers and your Ferrari bomber jacket around Kings Cross thats your choice. But you have to let this obsession with my rear go.
Cmon Micky, you can spell some words, and recognise the difference between an Apple and a car now. You could get a job gathering up supermarket trolleys or something, it will get you out of the day centre.
By the way "Your ugly Brutus", Classic.

Mate how did you know I majored in supermarket trolleyology

That Ignore button did not last long. But I will give it to you though you have some powerfull self restraint. I would have only lasted an hour or so. Welcome back I missed you.

So tell me mate was that an example of your mastery at doing better, not being weak & poor, not being a parrot, not looking foolish, showing pathos, being witty, parrying, lunging, being under no pressure, & finally being a lap in front
Boy I have really been put in my place haven’t I.
But I still get the impression from your post your taking me 100% serious. Lighten up man your just waving a red flag to a bull.
I am looking forward to your next post. So SURPRISE me.

By the way. Now back to talking about bottoms and Max again Max’s arse is RED and it does not look like a FIAt either

Can you spell rectum, RECTUM, rectum.
Red flag to a bull? Red flag to a bullsh##ter might be more accurate.
Red Bull ?
Red Bull + Ferrari engine = Bullsh#t?
Sorry, totaly lost the plot there, your point was?

[Mikep99]

Can you spell rectum, RECTUM, rectum.
Red flag to a bull? Red flag to a bullsh##ter might be more accurate.
Red Bull ?
Red Bull + Ferrari engine = Bullsh#t?
Sorry, totaly lost the plot there, your point was?

Bozo, rectum is a big word & I am not that good at spelling. I am more of a hands on type of guy.
So bend over mate, I promise you it won’t hurt a bit.

Red flag to a bull.

– Don’t tell me I have to explain things to you as well. AKR and you have heaps in common it seems. So just for the BOZO - Act as if you know it all & take everything way way to serious & it will be played upon – SIMPLE (and I like to play)

[AKR]

Don’t tell me I have to explain things to you as well. AKR and you have heaps in common it seems. So just for the BOZO - Act as if you know it all & take everything way way to serious & it will be played upon – SIMPLE (and I like to play)

Mike, secondo a me, tu fai veramente schifo! Io, come a te sono Ferrarista, quindi perché stai andando contra di me? Non ti vergogni quando dici cose contra di me?

[Mikep99]

Don’t tell me I have to explain things to you as well. AKR and you have heaps in common it seems. So just for the BOZO - Act as if you know it all & take everything way way to serious & it will be played upon – SIMPLE (and I like to play)

Mike, secondo a me, tu fai veramente schifo! Io, come a te sono Ferrarista, quindi perché stai andando contra di me? Non ti vergogni quando dici cose contra di me?

Sorry AKR but I say it as I see it.
I am a Ferrari supporter just like you but I am not totally blind & I hope I look at everything with an open - unclouded & logical outlook. You on the other hand proudly display your blatant BIAS views every chance you can.
And guess what Bozo and a few others are exactly the same in there views, I see no difference.
If your insulted, sorry but that’s the way I see it.
There are Ferrari supporters AND there are Ferrari supporters.
We go for the same team but we barrack in different ways
Am I better than you - NO just different.

[bud]

Refresh my memory about his indiscretion at the beginning of his career?

As a young mechanic he was caught running down the pitlane with a spanner in his hand to change the settings on an engine after the race and before scrutineering...

got anything to back this up? go look in your anti Mclaren manual

im surprised you know anything about F1 pre 2000

[AKR]

Don’t tell me I have to explain things to you as well. AKR and you have heaps in common it seems. So just for the BOZO - Act as if you know it all & take everything way way to serious & it will be played upon – SIMPLE (and I like to play)

Mike, secondo a me, tu fai veramente schifo! Io, come a te sono Ferrarista, quindi perché stai andando contra di me? Non ti vergogni quando dici cose contra di me?

Sorry AKR but I say it as I see it.
I am a Ferrari supporter just like you but I am not totally blind & I hope I look at everything with an open - unclouded & logical outlook. You on the other hand proudly display your blatant BIAS views every chance you can.
And guess what Bozo and a few others are exactly the same in there views, I see no difference.
If your insulted, sorry but that’s the way I see it.
There are Ferrari supporters AND there are Ferrari supporters.
We go for the same team but we barrack in different ways
Am I better than you - NO just different.

I guess you like to be conservative then. Fair enough but that to me is BORING. I like to glorify my team, my country and countries/teams that I see allegiance to. Oh well we are all different I guess. Regarding Mosley, that is who we were talking about, I like to glorify him as well (despite what he has done) as to Ferrari he is great and therefore a hero. Tell me Mike and also others, why would I condem someone who does what is in the interest of what I love most? And what Mosley does in his own time is his business anyway. I really think this is a lame excuse to just take him out. If one of you were caught doing a mass orgy no one would care. That is a fact. So if someone or someones want to use this to take down the big man, then he has all the right in the world to defend himself. I support Max Mosley all the way.

[bud]

AKR its about you not caring how you win, just as long as you win, this is not sporting so why are you a sporting fan?? it doesnt make sense!

[AKR]

AKR its about you not caring how you win, just as long as you win, this is not sporting so why are you a sporting fan?? it doesnt make sense!

This is what people say to me in Italian (I will try and translate as good as I can afterwards). "Kiki tu non sei sportiva, sei tifosa". This is something like, "Kiki you're not sporting (or have any sportsman/womanship), you are hardcore fan". Bud I agree with you, I am not sporting fan at all. I am a hardcore fan or TIFOSA!

[AKR]

got anything to back this up? go look in your anti Mclaren manual

im surprised you know anything about F1 pre 2000

An anti McLaren Manual. Hey I've got one of those. Great book. *LOL*

Just kidding of course.

[Martin]

got anything to back this up? go look in your anti Mclaren manual

im surprised you know anything about F1 pre 2000

An anti McLaren Manual. Hey I've got one of those. Great book. *LOL*

Just kidding of course.

That book comes as part of a set with:- The Jean Todt Sincerity manual (its only got one page and that is blank!!) and the Max Moseley book of Family Fun!!