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#410586
If there's a struggle at Mercedes to come up with some type of "justification" for the unheeded order, the reason being maximizing team points. It's a stretch to think the team would chance losing so much face on post race interviews, social media and what's sure to be the topic of conversation for the next month, for what turned out to be effectively a five point gain by Red Bull. In what's now a 174 point deficit??? Seems implausible at best.
#410592
Shame about McLaren, their call on intermediate tyres was either going to land them a brilliant or an awful result, and it ended up being the latter. After witnessing their pace this weekend, it could've been a lot more.

Here's why I don't accept that shame about McLaren stance. One, they gambled... Why did they gamble? Perhaps they feel they don't have what it takes to get a good result without a gamble. Two, they had a long discussion with Button about what he wanted to do with tires. Button the master in changing conditions chose to go the route they did. You take the glory when it pans out, then you take the consequence when it doesn't.

Just not good enough is the reason they got today's results, not a shame, they gambled because they felt they had to.
#410596
But that's what Button has always done, chosen an opposing tyre to the majority( or his team mate) and it's called 'inspired' or ' a master of these conditions', especially by the likes of Brundle and Coulthard. And on the occasions it's clearly wrong, well it's not his fault he was 'on the wrong tyre' , or , 'it was worth the gamble'. It's just happened too often.
#410597
McLaren made their gamble on Buttons feedback. Button has to gamble on option b because he doesn't have a chance on option a. For me Eric's face said it all, the stark realisation that button is not a Grosjean, he doesn't have a chance with plan a and therefore McLaren are effectively a defacto minnow in a sea of sharks till they get a battling number 1 driver
#410599
Erm, the commentators were criticising the information Button was being given over the radio, and they continued to reasure him after the pitstop.
#410605
Well basing on the radar rain was expected up until the wind started to change directions, the rain was expected in 15 minutes so Button pitted to gamble in order to try and get the high ground in terms of track position for when others were going to pit for intermediates.

If the weather hadn't of turned round then we would have seen two McLaren cars in the top 5 maybe even two podiums.

I'm not too negative on the gamble, it was only worth like 8 points or so...

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#410621
Well, my Hungarian GP day finished on a high, because I won a DVD of the race and some pictures from someone I follow on Twitter. He picks random winners from his followers every couple of weeks apparantly. I didn't know this till I saw a tweet saying I'd won. How nice is that!! :):cloud9:
#410624
The rain radar is all very a small step between a genius and a lunatic. Sometimes gambles pay off sometimes they don't (if you knew they would pay of they would not be a gamble)

What a race!

An amazing drive from an ex world champion, after being let down by his team in qualifying that means he could not get into Q2 or Q2. Today he showed some amazing racer craft to bring his car home in the points. Well Done Kimi.

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#410625
For the record that's twice that drivers defending a position in front of Lewis have completely cut a chicane and have not been reprimanded or been made to give the position up. Apparently if you're unable to slow the car enough to keep it on the track while being under attack you're given a pass by the stewards. Let's see what's done about it if Lewis should ever pull the same move while defending.

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#410627
What a race!

An amazing drive from an ex world champion, after being let down by his team in qualifying that means he could not get into Q2 or Q2. Today he showed some amazing racer craft to bring his car home in the points. Well Done Kimi.

That just made me spit out my drink. Kudos sir. :wink:
#410629
For the record that's twice that drivers defending a position in front of Lewis have completely cut a chicane and have not been reprimanded or been made to give the position up. Apparently if you're unable to slow the car enough to keep it on the track while being under attack you're given a pass by the stewards. Let's see what's done about it if Lewis should ever pull the same move while defending.

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To be fair, Alonso's was a lot less worse than Rosberg's. Also while Rosberg left his foot on the throttle across the run off Alonso clearly lifted and raised his hand to acknowledge his error. I think no investigation/penalty was completely fair.

Personally, I only like penalties given for serious breaches. I'd rather drivers be given the benefit of the doubt. Handing penalties out for minor incidents ruins the races in my opinion. Since the stewards have been "a bit more lenient" in the last 2/3 races we've seen some excellent wheel to wheel racing.
#410630
For the record that's twice that drivers defending a position in front of Lewis have completely cut a chicane and have not been reprimanded or been made to give the position up. Apparently if you're unable to slow the car enough to keep it on the track while being under attack you're given a pass by the stewards. Let's see what's done about it if Lewis should ever pull the same move while defending.

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To be fair, Alonso's was a lot less worse than Rosberg's. Also while Rosberg left his foot on the throttle across the run off Alonso clearly lifted and raised his hand to acknowledge his error. I think no investigation/penalty was completely fair.

Personally, I only like penalties given for serious breaches. I'd rather drivers be given the benefit of the doubt. Handing penalties out for minor incidents ruins the races in my opinion. Since the stewards have been "a bit more lenient" in the last 2/3 races we've seen some excellent wheel to wheel racing.

Just saying, and I hope the consistency is there. What you have to ask is why did he go wide and what would have happened to his position otherwise. Not faulting Alonso at all, just reminding the lunatic fringe for when he whom they love to hate does it.
#410641
Well I'm always banging on about Austria when Lewis lost his lap because his wheels went off the edge. But at Hokenheim it was fine to do that. Brundle was asking. Charlie why it was ok to do it at Hokenheim but not at Silveratone or Austria. He waffled on about turf, it's ok on one sort but not the other.....something like that. And Brundle asked why?why is it ok on one track but not the others? and Chatliesaid because you don't oh any faster by going over at Hokenheim. How do you work that out. Well said Charlie, some cars go over and they're no faster than others that stay in! What an exacting science. I nearly fell off my chair. So I concluded they just make it up to suit. And yes, we know exactly what would happen if Lewis' wheels went off in a race, seen all that before.
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