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#408993
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.


Even if there was a safety car hamilton wouldn't have caught rosberg. Rosberg didn't need luck the way hamilton does, he had the skill safety car or no safety car.
#408996
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.


Even if there was a safety car hamilton wouldn't have caught rosberg. Rosberg didn't need luck the way hamilton does, he had the skill safety car or no safety car.

He picked up 17 more spots than both Nico and Perez, imagine starting in 10th and only being able to finish in tenth, even when a bunch of cars ahead of him crash and burn. You keep supporting Rosberg, I'm counting on your kiss of death.

Maldonado, Perez, and Rosberg. Good company. :whip:
#408999
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.


Even if there was a safety car hamilton wouldn't have caught rosberg. Rosberg didn't need luck the way hamilton does, he had the skill safety car or no safety car.

He picked up 17 more spots than both Nico and Perez, imagine starting in 10th and only being able to finish in tenth, even when a bunch of cars ahead of him crash and burn. You keep supporting Rosberg, I'm counting on your kiss of death.

Maldonado, Perez, and Rosberg. Good company. :whip:


Keep counting bro cuz we'll wreck your $#@! ...literally. Maldo will anyway, perez will get hit by one of the geezers (massa/button), and rosberg will be drinkin' beer bringing up the rear. He was born in germany after all :P Hamilton will keep wearing his heart on his shoulder like a 14 year old girl. I can live with that :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Oh yeah, sorry I forgot to mention it was mostly hamilton's car. Even rosberg could pick up 17 spots starting from 20th in that car. I was gonna say maldonado could, but maldonado would pick up all 20 spots in that car :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
#409010
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.


Even if there was a safety car hamilton wouldn't have caught rosberg. Rosberg didn't need luck the way hamilton does, he had the skill safety car or no safety car.


Oh....because I seem to remember even with a safety car and having a car a second a lap quicker he couldn't wrestle the win away from Hamilton in Bahrain.

We could've seen situation reversed here in Germany. But denied...since I guess even the powers at be knew that Rosberg is no Hamilton. :twisted:
#409014
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.


Even if there was a safety car hamilton wouldn't have caught rosberg. Rosberg didn't need luck the way hamilton does, he had the skill safety car or no safety car.


Oh....because I seem to remember even with a safety car and having a car a second a lap quicker he couldn't wrestle the win away from Hamilton in Bahrain.

We could've seen situation reversed here in Germany. But denied...since I guess even the powers at be knew that Rosberg is no Hamilton. :twisted:

A bit harsh.
#409022
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.


Even if there was a safety car hamilton wouldn't have caught rosberg. Rosberg didn't need luck the way hamilton does, he had the skill safety car or no safety car.

He picked up 17 more spots than both Nico and Perez, imagine starting in 10th and only being able to finish in tenth, even when a bunch of cars ahead of him crash and burn. You keep supporting Rosberg, I'm counting on your kiss of death.

Maldonado, Perez, and Rosberg. Good company. :whip:


Keep counting bro cuz we'll wreck your $#@! ...literally. Maldo will anyway, perez will get hit by one of the geezers (massa/button), and rosberg will be drinkin' beer bringing up the rear. He was born in germany after all :P Hamilton will keep wearing his heart on his shoulder like a 14 year old girl. I can live with that :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Oh yeah, sorry I forgot to mention it was mostly hamilton's car. Even rosberg could pick up 17 spots starting from 20th in that car. I was gonna say maldonado could, but maldonado would pick up all 20 spots in that car:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:


How? By bulldozing into them on the first lap and winning by being the only car left on track? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
#409036
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.

This is really mixed up. Yes the safety car should have been sent out in my opinion, but no, it was not luck. Rosberg on merit built a gap - it's the complete opposite of what you've said - it would have been bad luck having built the gap only for it to be wiped out due to circumstances beyond his control. It would have been good luck for Bottas and Hamilton had this happened, but as for Rosberg - his win and the margin was all of his own making.
#409039
It was bad luck to have your brake disc blow up putting you out of quali. It was unbelievable there was no safety car deployed, I couldn't believe it!! Clearly they wanted a German win at the German GP. Was anything said on the tele about it? Easy win for Rosberg, lucks in to it again. Driver of the day Lewis.
By RyRy
#409048
It was bad luck to have your brake disc blow up putting you out of quali. It was unbelievable there was no safety car deployed, I couldn't believe it!! Clearly they wanted a German win at the German GP. Was anything said on the tele about it? Easy win for Rosberg, lucks in to it again. Driver of the day Lewis.

Nothing was mentioned, it was pretty obvious that there was a lot of bias involved. If safety car came out Hamilton would have won for sure, just look at lap 20... Hamilton was matching Rosberg even though Rosberg was on fresh rubber and Hamilton was on old...

Drivers of the day in order: Hamilton, Bottas, Alonso, Ricardo and then Rosberg for me.
#409063
bullocks, even with the safety car rosberg would have won. He had time to make the pitstop and come out in front. Bottas wasn't gaining on rosberg at all through the 50s before he had to defend from hamilton and hamilton took a while to get right on bottas' gearbox. Rosberg would have just managed the gap like he was doing, he wasn't even having to push, he still had gas in the tank so to speak
By RyRy
#409096
bullocks, even with the safety car rosberg would have won. He had time to make the pitstop and come out in front. Bottas wasn't gaining on rosberg at all through the 50s before he had to defend from hamilton and hamilton took a while to get right on bottas' gearbox. Rosberg would have just managed the gap like he was doing, he wasn't even having to push, he still had gas in the tank so to speak


He was pushing, there was radio calls to him (use the F1 timing app, they let you hear way more than what is aired on TV) telling him to push to create a bigger gap because they wanted to have a free pit stop in hand but he never actually got any faster or created a big enough gap.

If a safety car had came out Hamilton would have overtaken Bottass fairly easy because they would of replaced his broken front wing and then it would of been a straight fight between Hamilton and Rosberg, look back at Bahrain where Rosberg on fresh soft tyres couldn't overtake Hamilton on fresh hard tyres and then look at how Hamilton could keep on the back of Rosberg but Rosberg couldn't keep on the back of Hamilton at other tracks.

They would have more than likely been on the same tyres and we all know Hamilton is the better driver so.... I would say he would have overtaken Rosberg eventually.
#409101
Disagree, even with the SC Rosberg should have won. How many times have we seen the lead changed late on in the race between those 2? Whoever is ahead after the final stops has won. Hamilton couldnt pass in Austria or Monaco, Nico couldnt at Bahrain or Spain.

The ONLY advantage Lewis would have had is Nico's super softs would have had 3 laps on them. So Hamiltons would have been 3 laps fresher, however, he would still have had to pass Bottas which even on fresh tyres would NOT have been easy. So Rosberg would likely have pulled a lead before Hamilton even got to P2 and then controlled the final few laps. I find it hard to see any scenario where Lewis wins, barring a Rosberg DNF.
#409103
So the German got his win on German ground, again with a bit of real luck (no SC car when it was black and white) despite Lewis starting almost last. :yikes:

What's going to stop Lewis in Hungary? Engine? Gearbox? But that's only 5 places. Let's brainstorm Universe, what else....slow pitstops ain't gonna cut it.

This is really mixed up. Yes the safety car should have been sent out in my opinion, but no, it was not luck. Rosberg on merit built a gap - it's the complete opposite of what you've said - it would have been bad luck having built the gap only for it to be wiped out due to circumstances beyond his control. It would have been good luck for Bottas and Hamilton had this happened, but as for Rosberg - his win and the margin was all of his own making.


The fact is that the SC SHOULD have come out. But it didn't. This translates to good luck for Rosberg, circumstances within control or not if an incident occured and circumstances NEEDED to be changed but it didn't, it translates to good luck. The normal resolve here is for the SC to come out, but it didn't when it should have.

His win and his big margin was all his own making, thanks to his teammates bad luck in qualifying, which translates to good luck for Rosberg in this instance. It works both ways, since these two are WDC contenders.
#409105
Let me say from the outset that I don't think Mercedes are doing anything to favour Rosberg. I think they're trying to be scrupulously fair and are putting winning the constructors as a first priority.

What I find mind boggling is the good luck Rosberg's had and the bad luck Lewis has had. I may not have them all here but these spring to mind......

Lewis bad luck

Two complete DNF's in a race.

Brake failure in quali putting him at the back of the grid.

No safety car deployed when it should have been, putting him right back into play for the win.

Generally slower pitstops than team mate when tenths were crucial( a relatively minor issue considering some if the others)

Prevented from getting pole at Monaco by waved yellows.

Rules tightened to a disallow all wheels off the track in quali(Austria)

There's probably more.


Lewis good luck

Can't think of any

Rosberg bad luck

DNF

Technical issues in Canada ( though he still lucked out points wise over Hamilton)

Rosberg's good luck

No penalty for Monaco

A Rules made lenient, for F1 races only allowing all four wheels off the track in quali ( Germany)

No penalty for speeding through a flag( yellow? Can't remember)

No penalty for pole gained with all four wheels off the track

No deployment of safety car in Dangerous situation


I keep thinking surely this can't go on, but it does :(
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