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[madbrad]

We must note that even with tire warmers the tires are still not quite as hot as the proper running temp.

[Denthúl]

The first few laps would be a little slower and more cautious as they warmed up their tyres, but after that things would be normal. And remember, F1 drivers are supposed to be the best that there are

That's ONE of the concerns: the differential speed between a driver on fumes lapping at track record speed and some back marker coming out of the pits with a full tank and cold tires. They will drive even slower with cold tires (as opposed to heated ones until now).

However, when it comes round to the guy running on fumes putting on new tyres in the pits, the balance is restored as they also have to make the slow lap.

[darwin dali]

The first few laps would be a little slower and more cautious as they warmed up their tyres, but after that things would be normal. And remember, F1 drivers are supposed to be the best that there are

That's ONE of the concerns: the differential speed between a driver on fumes lapping at track record speed and some back marker coming out of the pits with a full tank and cold tires. They will drive even slower with cold tires (as opposed to heated ones until now).

However, when it comes round to the guy running on fumes putting on new tyres in the pits, the balance is restored as they also have to make the slow lap.

Did you read my posts? I don't care about the balance. It's about the dangerous speed differential that will be greater than without blankets and it's about instability of the car which may trigger some accident.
And on top of that - the backmarkers are more likely to run a one-stop strategy, thus losing time only once, while the front runners (partly due to q3) will likely have one or two more stops, thus losing more time. That's what I was referring to with respect to Honda - they would prefer such a scenario to level the playing field.

[Denthúl]

The first few laps would be a little slower and more cautious as they warmed up their tyres, but after that things would be normal. And remember, F1 drivers are supposed to be the best that there are

That's ONE of the concerns: the differential speed between a driver on fumes lapping at track record speed and some back marker coming out of the pits with a full tank and cold tires. They will drive even slower with cold tires (as opposed to heated ones until now).

However, when it comes round to the guy running on fumes putting on new tyres in the pits, the balance is restored as they also have to make the slow lap.

Did you read my posts? I don't care about the balance. It's about the dangerous speed differential that will be greater than without blankets and it's about instability of the car which may trigger some accident.
And on top of that - the backmarkers are more likely to run a one-stop strategy, thus losing time only once, while the front runners (partly due to q3) will likely have one or two more stops, thus losing more time. That's what I was referring to with respect to Honda - they would prefer such a scenario to level the playing field.

I read your post. And I also made a point earlier about traction control and engine braking. A driver could be trying an overtaking move going into a corner, brake too late (using a braking point that would have been fine if the car had engine braking) and smash into the other car, possibly injuring one or more driver. Are you saying that, because of that risk, the driver aids should be reinstated?

I'm not sure it would level the playing field that much, considering next year's regulations. We could see any team have the best car, because of the huge changes. Thus Honda may see themselves with a car like the 2004 BAR and be scoring many more points. That's what they are hoping for, so it would be silly to back something with the intention of making it easier for a slower team when they are trying to move forward in terms of speed.

And finally, if slick tyres do return next season, this would be less of a problem than it would be for grooved tyres, since slicks have a much greater area in contact with the track, allowing the tyre to heat up quicker.

[bud]

cold tyre vs race temp tyre will have the same disadvantages regardless of series.

F1 isnt immune to the physics of motorsports is it?

No, but it goes further to the extremes than other series. Aerodynamics being one big difference (and it's still gonna be a major part even after the winglets are banned). If you suddenly have sub-par tire performance, curbs could loom and aero could suffer, driver performance could aggravate the situation and you end up with a big clash, possibly taking out other drivers or even injuring them.
I'm all for exciting racing, but we will be ruing these decisions when we have a fatality during a race weekend.

it goes further but youre missing the fact that in other series like A1 a guy on cold tyres is still slower and is still going to get in the way of a guy up to temp is he not? Afterall youre worrying about slower cars getting in the way and causing crashes no?
so in your basic theory we should right now remove the lower ranked teams because they lap in races 3-4 seconds slower than the front guys and could cause an accident when being lapped?

next year in the outlap without tyre warmers if the speed difference cold vs race temp is down to 3-4 seconds a lap with Bridgestone tweaking the compounds then there will be no issue as we have that now.

[Martin]

I am not really sure why tyre warmers are such a big issue. Removing them wont save much money but it will make it a tad more dangerous, especially at pit stop time. It will cause teams to consider strategies and maybe reduce the number of pit stops. I like pit stops, they are a real test of teamwork and strategy. There may be some improvement to racing excitement for spectators, but I would rather see proper racing.
I really cant see any benefit from removing tyre warmers so I think that they should stay.
I have already heard of a spray on substance that 'melts' the surface of the tyre and allows it to perform like a warm ( not hot) tyre for about 1 lap. If this sort of thing is to be used then I think that we should stay with tyre warmers.

[McLaren Fan]

I am not really sure why tyre warmers are such a big issue. Removing them wont save much money but it will make it a tad more dangerous, especially at pit stop time. It will cause teams to consider strategies and maybe reduce the number of pit stops. I like pit stops, they are a real test of teamwork and strategy. There may be some improvement to racing excitement for spectators, but I would rather see proper racing.
I really cant see any benefit from removing tyre warmers so I think that they should stay.
I have already heard of a spray on substance that 'melts' the surface of the tyre and allows it to perform like a warm ( not hot) tyre for about 1 lap. If this sort of thing is to be used then I think that we should stay with tyre warmers.

The idea of getting rid tyre warmers was to (somehow) make racing more exciting. If they are planning to spray the tyres with a special chemical, it defeats the purpose of getting rid of the tyre warmers! The FIA don't seem to have a clue how to run Formula One.

[Martin]

I have just been reading another post about Jean Todts support for MM. He says that MM has done most to support safety. It seems to me that the biggest downside of removing tyre warmers is a reduction in safety, and the biggest benefit, of more exciting racing, seems marginal by comparison, so that does not seem to fit JTs view of MM does it?