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[Nin-Chin]

Australia Rosberg didn't get a final lap in compared to Lewis, would have been close
Malaysia Lewis was faster once they got onto the full wets, Rosberg said he was wasn't comfortable with braking,
Bahrain Lewis didn't get his final lap in thanks to a small leak on his brakes(drums I believe), Nico would have beaten him anyway
China Lewis dominated, Nico made loads of errors
Spain No errors really, Lewis had an epic lap
Monaco Was gonna be close but ruined with his "off"
Canada Lewis made errors
Austria nico and lewis made errors
silverstone lewis misjudged

[RyRy]

Lol...

[f1boy]

100% agree with the comments about points.
Lewis is 4 points behind Rosberg, having effectively competed in 1 less race than him.

Next weekend, Lewis will go ahead of Rosberg by 3 points of it is another 1/2 in Lewis's favour.
No wonder Rosberg is trying to play the home race card. He'll be desperate for the win next Sunday, as I think Lewis will show him
the way in Hungary, Spa and Monza.

By Singapore I think Lewis will be out in front by a decent margin.

[geetface9]

No wonder Rosberg is trying to play the home race card. He'll be desperate for the win next Sunday

No more desperate than lewis was last weekend

and the weekend before.

and the weekend before.

[Roth]

I'm waiting for mnm's alternate 2014 season where Vettel is spanking the rest of the grid with what is statistically not the fastest car.

On the Autosport forum there's a DR v SV thread which has about three Vettel fanboys who are using every trick in the book to defend their man. It's a wonderful insight into the nature of denial.

Not unlike this thread where if the driver you prefer doesn't go faster there's always extenuating circumstances and it's always based on the assumption the other driver had a faultless lap or cheated, not simply he was better. It's that fine line between reasons and excuses - the fanboys and haters just maul that line for their own purpose.

Once you notice the selectivity it gets pretty dull.

[racechick]

I'm not one of those sort of people because my driver DOES go faster, it says so on my banner

[What's Burning?]

Lewis will win in Germany, and will steam roll Nico through Hungary into the mid season break. No fanboyism. I just hope they both have the reliability to finish every race for the remainder of the season so we don't have to have a championship predicated on mechanical DNFs.

[Roth]

Lewis will win in Germany, and will steam roll Nico through Hungary into the mid season break. No fanboyism. I just hope they both have the reliability to finish every race for the remainder of the season so we don't have to have a championship predicated on mechanical DNFs.

That's just your hopeful prediction, and understandable. I'm talking about like what we have above with all the quali performances. And I don't think you get many true Nico supporters, just those who want to see someone beat Hamilton, and he is this year's preferred option, a convenient stick. So Lewis' supporters go into overdrive defending him, when sometimes he just gets beat, no excuses and that's no bad thing. It means he's earnt his honours. We complained Vettel and MS had no competition, and rank them lower than their achievements. Surely if Nico gives Hamlton a run for his money it's a good thing. Being a better driver deosn't mean beating them everytime they go on the track, just more often.

[What's Burning?]

I agree, and there are more Lewis fans than you can shake a stick at that would fall into that, all our boy needs is a competitive car and no worse "luck" than the rest of them category. It's just that he has a tendency to be such a lightning rod and has been for so long that the autonomous reaction is to defend him. It's actually a weird feeling to see him as the odds on favorite. Never been here before. His last season at McLaren broke my spirits.

[racechick]

I think it's great that Nico and Lewis fight , I'd hate a number one/ two. And Ive said Lewis makes mistakes ( driving in Austria and decision at Silverstone) and sometimes Nico is quicker, quali at Canada. But I'll always defend Lewis against things that aren't true.

[Roth]

I think it's great that Nico and Lewis fight , I'd hate a number one/ two. And Ive said Lewis makes mistakes ( driving in Austria and decision at Silverstone) and sometimes Nico is quicker, quali at Canada. But I'll always defend Lewis against things that aren't true.

Sometimes you reduce Nico to the villain though, and don't necessarily credit his strong performances, because he's slighted Hamilton.

I'm only basing this on a general impression, I'm not going trawling for evidence, so apologies if I'm wrong.

[What's Burning?]

I think it's great that Nico and Lewis fight , I'd hate a number one/ two. And Ive said Lewis makes mistakes ( driving in Austria and decision at Silverstone) and sometimes Nico is quicker, quali at Canada. But I'll always defend Lewis against things that aren't true.

Sometimes you reduce Nico to the villain though, and don't necessarily credit his strong performances, because he's slighted Hamilton.

I'm only basing this on a general impression, I'm not going trawling for evidence, so apologies if I'm wrong.

Villain is as villain does? I'm still of the opinion that Monaco was a calculated risk on his part. He gambled and won. But given the years Nico has put in at Merc. The fight agains Schumacher when no one gave him the slightest chance and the level of driving he's raised his game to in order to fight with Hamilton, I'd be okay with his WDC if Lewis was for whatever reason (fairly) not able to win it this year.

I still think that out of contempt for the ridiculousness of the double points rule and payback for Monaco, that Lewis take him out turn one in Abu Dhabi if he's ahead by less than 50 points.

[Roth]

Villain is as villain does? I'm still of the opinion that Monaco was a calculated risk on his part. He gambled and won.

That's probably about right. If he'd been notorious for pulling stunts, like MS, I don't think the stewards would have been so lenient. There's intent in the telemetry and intent in the character. It smacked more of desparation than calculation though, so we can't vilify him for one act. Nobody in modern F1 can compare with MS or Senna for blatant acts of malace.

[Roth]

I'm not one of those sort of people because my driver DOES go faster, it says so on my banner

Well obviously I was particularly not talking about you, so I'm glad you picked up on that.

[geetface9]

You're also saying Rosberg us more consistent and made less errors. He made errors to stop him qualifying close to Lewis in the early races. He made an error in qualifying at Monaco and he made an error leaving the track in Canada. That's quite a lot.
Lewis made an error in Austria quali and made a wrong decision in Silverstone quali. I'd say far more errors to Rosberg, he's just been lucky in that his worst errors benefitted him and hampered Lewis

Rosberg has made less errors in quali than hamilton has. He botched up monaco and lewis didn't get a final run in because he wasn't smart enough to set a pole lap up front like nico did. Even if rosberg got 2nd and hamilton got pole in monaco, he'd still be more consistent because of hamilton's last two qualifying sessions, albeit very marginally. So it'd be either 1 mistake for nico to 2 for lewis, or 0 for nico and still 2 for lewis if rosberg didn't make a mistake in monaco. This season may come down to such small margins.

Ok geet, Nico is a better qualifier than Lewis and has done better, so why is he only 4 points ahead despite a dnf from first for Lewis

Ah, that must mean Lewis is way better on Sundays, the one time Nico qualified in 4th vs the time Lewis qualified in 9th, who drove better recovery drive to the front?

Good thing for Nico is that they now give a trophy for Saturdays, so he won't mind half the points Lewis gets on Sundays when they both finish

Now you're not even on track because you don't have an answer to the fact that nico has been the more consistent qualifier than hamilton this season.

There is a big difference between consistency and performance geet
You say Nico is more consistent than Lewis in quali because he has a better average position. This however doesn't mean Nico has made less mistakes as he hasn't, it just means Lewis' mistakes have had more costly consequences - this is complete luck
Therefore Nico is less consistent in quali as he has made more mistakes but he has been lucky enough to have less costly mistakes therefore has better results
Nico has been less consistent than Lewis in the context you are trying to sell, this year and last year, unless ofcourse you care to list the number of mistakes made by both or unless mnm is willing to come out of hiding while Seb is still getting a spanking from his teammate

Fair enough. I'll leave the rest up to mnm I find the fact that hamilton has made less mistakes and still has a lower average quali position just sad