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[geetface9]

I'm not trying to take anything away from hamilton. I don't see any indication of rosberg having "no chance" to win. He was suffering with gearbox issues since lap 20. It's a bit unfair to say rosberg didn't have a chance when he had every chance. We saw hamilton last race finish second even though he was storming at the end, so that's evidence that there was no guarantee

I just re-downloaded the timings on my tablet and checked it all out again...

Lap 4 to 20 he went from 6 seconds behind down to 2 seconds and after the pits Rosberg went fastest by the correct amount in comparison to other drivers, but only just beat Hamiltons lap times even though Rosbergs set of tyres were just put on.

Hamilton pitted lap 25, lost 2 seconds in the pits and then instantly came out and did a 1:37.1 which was over a second faster than his teammate which triggered other drivers to take their pit stop and switch to the hard tyre and then everyone started to set their best lap times.

If you're a second a lap faster than your teammate or any driver a pass will be easy especially with DRS so he would of breezed past.

If Rosberg had pitted Hamilton could have won by staying out and just driving to the end (18+ seconds is plenty of time in hand when racing your teammate on the same tyres), Hamilton would have pretty much had a free pit stop and if he went to lap 40ish and then pitted even if he came out along side, behind or the more likely of infront then he would of walked away on the fresh rubber.

It was blatantly obvious that it was Hamilton's win as soon he did the first flying lap after the pits.

I'm not trying to take anything away from hamilton. I don't see any indication of rosberg having "no chance" to win. He was suffering with gearbox issues since lap 20. It's a bit unfair to say rosberg didn't have a chance when he had every chance. We saw hamilton last race finish second even though he was storming at the end, so that's evidence that there was no guarantee

He went something like 25 laps on the set of medium tires and was good to the regulations, coming out right behind Rosberg who after his first pit stop still had to make one more stop. The race was decided there and then. The misfortune for Rosberg is the zero points scored instead of 18.

Exactly, If I was Rosberg and got told on the radio that Hamilton had just gone a second faster on the hard tyre I would of just backed off a bit and saved my tyres, engine... etc because it was already game over. 18 points was all that was possible and he wasn't being threatened behind.

Ah I see!! I stand corrected!!

[racechick]

Yep. fittipaldi did it from 7th. So a nice little statistic there for Lewis. I believe he is now second only to Mansel British driver GP wins.
Yes Roth, he messed up q3 , ( not in his driving but in the decision he made) I was pretty angry with him on Sat( unfairly) .
I can understand why he bailed out of the lap, he was down on time and the track in the first two sectors was slower, he also made a very slight lock up. No one could have known how much the track would improve for the third sector. Several drivers didn't even elect to go out, so he was by no means the only one of that mind.
However, having gone out , in my mind he should have covered off Rosberg, firstly ( Monaco payback) by being fractionally slower across the line for the last run thus preventing Roseberg having a go. But that's not Lewis style, he could still however have kept Rosberg behind him covering off any slight chance of him going faster. Lewis knows what he did wrong, which is why he could barely speak after quali...felt he'd let everyone down. However he came back Sunday morning determined to put the error right, and he did so I fine style!!
He's also learnt a valuable lesson. He said at the after party," I didn't give up on that lap, I just thought there was no way I could get a faster time...but don't worry next time I'll keep my foot down whatever.

[racechick]

Ps Roth, yes, I think I will have been more ecstatic than you about the Lewis win.

[CookinFlat6]

Thing is Lewis trying to play games or tricks just works against him, because it interferes with his talent shining. Like I said a few weeks back he should leave the quali tricks etc to try hards who have less talent. Saturday IMO was again a case of halfheartedly contemplating doing a Shumacher on his teammate and again a case of screwing it up because he just isnt the ruthless sausage dastardly that those with less talent and less scruples.

Why didnt he spin his car and invoke the yellows and stopped everyone from running?, why let them run but not run yourself? why did he not 'almost lose it' ahead of Nico and at least made sure he wasnt running?

It was properly silly but not stupid, but many have made worse mistakes like miss the chequered flag by inches for q3, and didnt even come out for a final run etc, then we have those who have crashed etc. But as always with Lewis he should be perfect for the ditractors even though thats not good enough either.

He needs to forget about the off track stuff, the Nicos, Sebs, MS' etc are different relying less on talent and more on industry and gaming, Lewis just needs to go back to aceing qquali or coming second, then whipping Nico on track. Cant play Nico at his game cos he has developed it over the years as he needed to, Lewis hasnt, his extra 0.2 is his ace as long as he doesnt listen to the usual people talking about Nico being more cerebral

Cerebral doesnt prevent a chap from choking on your exhaust fumes

[Roth]

It was quite sweet the way Nico was mashing all those buttons like a game of Space Invaders, pleeding with the pits to help him.

No, actually it was desparate and a bit sad. You could feel in that moment his chamionship optimism slip away.

As much as I crap on about Lewis' yips, I think Nico hadn't had the misfortune that would let reality hinder his expectations.

[racechick]

i didnt get to hear all the pit radios. i'll hear that when i watch the recording. ( was too tierd last night, watched some but was falling asleep. )

i agree with you Cookie that Lewis is no good at the games and should leave them to others.....but part of me still wanted him to look at Nico after quali, having stopped him getting a last run in, with a look that said , " so you think you're the only one who can play games". but he wouldnt pull it off, hes too honest, like he couldnt pull off lie gate when the team asked him to lie.
i prefer Lewis how he is.

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

[Roth]

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

Any takers? Anyone? No? Shame.

[What's Burning?]

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

Any takers? Anyone? No? Shame.

I think that's RC being extremely complimentary.

[darwin dali]

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

Any takers? Anyone? No? Shame.

I think that's RC being extremely complimentary.

She used to be an Alonso fan back in the days with blue shirt and all

[What's Burning?]

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

Any takers? Anyone? No? Shame.

I think that's RC being extremely complimentary.

She used to be an Alonso fan back in the days with blue shirt and all

Hell hath no fury... I'd hate to think what she would be like if Lewis hadn't beaten him in 2007.

[ang4f1]

Ps Roth, yes, I think I will have been more ecstatic than you about the Lewis win.

This week-end ...JP Montoya won the Pocono 500 miler...at an average speed of 202mph....

[darwin dali]

Ps Roth, yes, I think I will have been more ecstatic than you about the Lewis win.

This week-end ...JP Montoya won the Pocono 500 miler...at an average speed of 202mph....

And then he devoured 27 hamburgers at an average speed of 350mph...

[racechick]

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

Any takers? Anyone? No? Shame.

I think that's RC being extremely complimentary.

She used to be an Alonso fan back in the days with blue shirt and all

Briefly DD, briefly!! I was just waiting for Lewis. But I WAS being complimentary! He can do very sneaky things without batting an eyelid and next to Lewis he's the best driver, so that's a compliment

[darwin dali]

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

Any takers? Anyone? No? Shame.

I think that's RC being extremely complimentary.

She used to be an Alonso fan back in the days with blue shirt and all

Briefly DD, briefly!! I was just waiting for Lewis. But I WAS being complimentary! He can do very sneaky things without batting an eyelid and next to Lewis he's the best driver, so that's a compliment

Well, your avatar was in a blue shirt for years!!!

[CookinFlat6]

Alonso can pull it off admirably...and hes fast.

Lewis is faster in outright pace, and Alonso pulls off the questionable tactics like he was born into the Oliver Twist story
However it has not worked out ultimately, practically sacked from his last WDC challenger teams - McLaren and 1st Renault stint he finds himself at a mid grid team as the perpetual loser - karma can be tricky