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[sagi58]

The most important thing is that the rule is applied equally and fairly, at all tracks!

[stonemonkey]

The most important thing is that the rule is applied equally and fairly, at all tracks!

You just know it won't though, don't you?

[Jabberwocky]

Graham Lauden says it is up to the race director if the standing start is used.

That is even worse

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[sagi58]

The most important thing is that the rule is applied equally and fairly, at all tracks!

You just know it won't though, don't you?

I do... But, hope is something I can't give up!!

[sagi58]

Graham Lauden says it is up to the race director if the standing start is used.

That is even worse

What's the point of having the rule, then?

[sagi58]

Just a few salient points:

, Ben Anderson wrote:">Analysis: Are standing restarts good for Formula 1?

Plans to introduce standing restarts after safety car periods in Formula 1 next season have sparked debate over whether sporting parity and safety is being sacrificed for 'the show'...

...a new plan to spice up restarts by making the cars reform on the grid - which was ratified by the FIA World Motor Sport Council on Thursday.

The move is bound to influence how races will play out next year. Here, AUTOSPORT examines the implications.

SAFETY

Safety is a paramount concern for the sport's governing body, but some leading F1 drivers are concerned standing restarts will be more dangerous than rolling ones...

...TECHNICAL ISSUES

Some drivers have raised fears that cars will break down if asked to do repeated standing starts...

...TOO ARTIFICIAL?

Standing restarts are likely to disadvantage the race leader even more than the current safety car procedure...

p.s. numerous drivers are quoted, if you're interested in seeing what they have to say!

[Roth]

This is to satisfy the cheap seats though. I imagine the reasoning goes, the hardcore fans will stay more or less, everyone else doesn't much care for the details, just the drama.

Like Bob Dylan saying he plays to the back of the stadium, because the people at the front come regardless.

[sagi58]

Like Bob Dylan saying he plays to the back of the stadium, because the people at the front come regardless.

Great analogy!!

[sagi58]

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It sounds like the FIA has put some thought into this one, eh?

 wrote:">INSIGHT: How standing F1 restarts will work

Formula 1's plan to introduce standing starts after safety car periods for 2015 has become one of more controversial changes to have been agreed by the sport's chiefs.But despite widespread criticism from fans about the idea, the details of the new regulations have now been officially laid out in the FIA's F1 sporting regulations for next year. Here is how the new standing start system will work:

The procedure of the safety car will remain the same as it is now until after backmarkers have been allowed to unlap themselves and move to the rear of the field. Then, when F1's race director deems it is safe enough to call in the safety car, a "safety car in this lap" message will be displayed on the official notice system.

The safety car will pull into the pits and the cars will carry on for another lap, with the pit exit lights turning red until the whole field has passed the end of the pitlane. Team personnel who normally sit on the pit wall will have to move to the safety of the garages, with the exception of two people from each team.

The drivers will then proceed to the starting grid to stop in their respective positions, and the five-light starting system procedure that is used at the beginning of races now will be run through.

And, of course, there is always a "but"...

 wrote:">INSIGHT: How standing F1 restarts will work

...There are circumstances, however, when a standing start will not be used following a safety car. That will happen if the safety car has been deployed within two laps of the start of the race, of if there are less than five laps of the race remaining.

Furthermore, F1's race director has the right for the race to get going without cars forming up on the grid if he considers "conditions are unsuitable for a standing restart." In those circumstances, the rolling safety car restart where the leader dictates the pace, as has been common in F1 in recent years, will be used.

Also, the rules state that there will be no standing start if the race began under safety car conditions.

[sagi58]

Doesn't look like this particular "idea" has the support of the drivers:

 wrote:">F1: Ricciardo says drivers opposed restart rule

Daniel Ricciardo has revealed that Formula 1's drivers made clear their unhappiness at the introduction of standing starts after safety cars in 2015 when consulted by teams.

The decision to force drivers to form up the grid for a restart after caution periods has drawn much criticism since it was approved by teams and the FIA. Ricciardo questions both the sporting fairness and safety aspects of it, and says his unease at the move is not unique.

When asked if F1 drivers had been asked for their opinion on the idea and discussed it, he said: "We did, we all pretty much disagreed as far as I am aware.

"I will let the veteran drivers speak their minds. I said I don't think it is the best thing. We will see what other drivers say about it."

Ricciardo thinks both the fairness issues and safety matters are as important as each other in relation to the new rule.

"I don't want to go into it too much, but if you are leading the race by 20 seconds, the safety car comes out and you lose that 20 seconds advantage, then what was looking like an easy victory is still questionable.

"That is already a big disadvantage for the leader who has worked hard to build up that gap. To then put him on the start, and anything can happen at the starts, not only an accident, but you get a poor start you can be from first to fourth before Turn 1, it seems harsh on the leader.

"Then what is happening with the tires? If you cannot change them you will lose a lot of temperature. At first my argument was the big disadvantage for the leader, but the big one that everyone is talking about is safety.

"Starts in F1 are already quite tight a lot of the time and that is with new tires, and tire warmers. If we have tires with 20 laps on them or even more, because when there is a lot of rubber that has been taken off the tires, they don't hold temperature, it will be significantly more difficult."

F1 tire supplier Pirelli suggested this week that proper research was needed to understand the safety implications of cars starting on used tires.

[stonemonkey]

I really don't get it, there is nothing with the existing rules regarding safety cars that will be fixed by this and what ricci says makes sense and sounds like other drivers agree with him so how has this gone through? Having a standing start with cars on a mixture of new to worn tyres is a recipe for disaster.

[darwin dali]

Having a standing start with cars on a mixture of new to worn tyres is a recipe for disaster.

Anything goes for F1 in the headlines

[stonemonkey]

Having a standing start with cars on a mixture of new to worn tyres is a recipe for disaster.

Anything goes for F1 in the headlines

Then there'll be the penalties dished out for drivers caught up in any incidents.

[darwin dali]

Having a standing start with cars on a mixture of new to worn tyres is a recipe for disaster.

Anything goes for F1 in the headlines

Then there'll be the penalties dished out for drivers caught up in any incidents.

And then there'll be the medical car and another safety car

[stonemonkey]

Having a standing start with cars on a mixture of new to worn tyres is a recipe for disaster.

Anything goes for F1 in the headlines

Then there'll be the penalties dished out for drivers caught up in any incidents.

And then there'll be the medical car and another safety car

At least after that 2nd safety car period it'll be a rolling start, they're not so stupid that they haven't realised all this already.