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#404194
Ferrari certainly seem to be dropping back relative to others. The Renault and Merc engines are obviouskly way ahead now, but it seems that the ferrari chassis is also dropping back. But really it shouldnt matter if the car is the class of the field like Merc or not, 2 champions in a Ferrari really should be providing a good intra team battle to entertain their supporters.
Kimi really does not seem to really give a damn this season. There are flashes of the old brilliance immediately ruined by driving into rookies and spinning etc.

Looking at Danny Ric at RBR there is a lot to be said about young hungry talent like Hulk vs older, richer Champions like Kimi. The best show is the 2 contemporaries at Merc.

he irony about Ferraris intra team battle is that the one time ferrari appear 2 have equality and competition amongst teammates is the most one sided battle I can ever remeber seeing. Even Massa seems to have done better over 7 races with his hand tied behind his back by the team.

Just out of curiosity, I wonder how they have ended up in this position
#404196
Some news reports say Hamilton lost it a lap earlier which looks like it as he lost 2 seconds and then Nico reported he had the issue.
#404198
Some news reports say Hamilton lost it a lap earlier which looks like it as he lost 2 seconds and then Nico reported he had the issue.

Cronologically that's how it played out, but I guess there's differing definitions about the problem, the braking issues and then associated loss of power issues. both could have been experiencing one or the other in overlapping, parallel or congruent times. The congruent would be the least likely scenario.
#404204
Interesting how many Nico 'fans' are suddenly coming out of the woodwork, even more in number now than after the first few races, when they vanished as Lewis won 4 in a row to catch up.


I've been here the whole time :D just ask RC :P


Nope...you were a Webber fan and clearly said before you're no Rosberg fan, you just prefer him over Hamilton.

It's cool if you'd like to graduate to a Rosberg fan...since you have no one to cheer for at the moment except for <EDIT WB>Maldonado. :P


I think you're right, I did say that I merely preferred rosberg to hamilton. LET IT BE KNOWN HENCE FORTH, I AM NOW A ROSBERG FAN AS OF MARCH 2014:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: And I'll definitely be cheering for <EDIT WB>Maldonado for a long time to come! :D


Still doesn't count until you change your FAVOURITE DRIVER tag under your nickname. Like what I have to describe Lewis Hamilton. (like it or not) :twisted:


:rofl: it doesn't ask who my favorite formula 1 driver is, just driver in general :P and I would think the best in F1 would have more than one championship OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP DROPPIN' PLATES!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:P:P:P
#404207
The best should have more than 1 WDC?

How comes the current 4xWDC is getting bested by his near rookie teammate

Actually geet, wouldnt it save a lot of typing if you just proclaimed your fave driver as 'the number 2 driver' :rofl:
#404213
The best should have more than 1 WDC?

How comes the current 4xWDC is getting bested by his near rookie teammate

Actually geet, wouldnt it save a lot of typing if you just proclaimed your fave driver as 'the number 2 driver' :rofl:


Geet thinks Senna is crap compared to studs like Schumacher, Fangio, ....and Vettel. :yikes:
#404218
Just want to put this out there. Why didn't Rosberg receive a penalty for leaving the track and accelerating to gain an advantage? These are the rules.

Here's the regulation governing track limits:
20.2 Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt the white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not.

A driver will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with the track.

Should a car leave the track the driver may re-join, however, this may only be done when it is safe to do so and without gaining any lasting advantage. At the absolute discretion of the race director a driver may be given the opportunity to give back the whole of any advantage he gained by leaving the track.

A driver may not deliberately leave the track without justifiable reason.
#404220
Just want to put this out there. Why didn't Rosberg receive a penalty for leaving the track and accelerating to gain an advantage? These are the rules.

Here's the regulation governing track limits:
20.2 Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt the white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not.

A driver will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with the track.

Should a car leave the track the driver may re-join, however, this may only be done when it is safe to do so and without gaining any lasting advantage. At the absolute discretion of the race director a driver may be given the opportunity to give back the whole of any advantage he gained by leaving the track.

A driver may not deliberately leave the track without justifiable reason.


LRW put forward his understanding of this rule earlier....it's the bolded part which is key. If Lewis has kept the gap at 1.6-2 seconds and didn't close up again I believe the stewards would be forced to intervene. Unfortunately Lewis kept the pressure on and closed up in 2 laps again and in the end it backfired big time on him. Sometimes you do have to be cunning in these circumstances and Lewis wasn't cunning enough.

Though I really wouldn't put money on the stewards penalizing Rosberg even if Lewis did the smart thing.
#404222
Mark Hughes wrote on his review that Lewis lost it into T10 on Lap 36 and Nico into T1 on Lap 37.
#404223
The sticking point for me is the deliberate aspect of it. It started out as a driver error, no fault, but clearly mid chicane it switched to I can get an advantage out of this as the accelerator pedal was pressed. I wouldn't be surprised to see the rules updated to clarify this over the winter. Clearly it was wrong and once again lady luck smiles on one of our co thread protagonists.

After a little more thought, it becomes obvious that the rules were written for a normal situation where someone can gain an advantage by cutting a chicane. There was absolutely no thought about extending an advantage by cutting a chicane. The precedence is set and there's nothing stopping us from seeing this at least once per race going forward with no possible fear of a reprimand beyond a warning.

Unless they amend the rule before the Austrian GP.
#404224
The best should have more than 1 WDC?

How comes the current 4xWDC is getting bested by his near rookie teammate

Actually geet, wouldnt it save a lot of typing if you just proclaimed your fave driver as 'the number 2 driver' :rofl:


cuz vettel is a $#@!^& :D and yeah I guess the trend is I like the underdog teammates. $#@! it :)
#404226
Unfortunately Alonso and Kimi are in carts this year, and Kimi has his own issues besides, so not much to build up the tension between the two.

It's probably better this way, ((she rationalizes)) we wouldn't want them to take away from the "Main Event"! :P


No offense to Nico, but I would love to see an Alonso/Hamilton main event.
#404228
Just want to put this out there. Why didn't Rosberg receive a penalty for leaving the track and accelerating to gain an advantage? These are the rules.

Here's the regulation governing track limits:
20.2 Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt the white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not.

A driver will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with the track.

Should a car leave the track the driver may re-join, however, this may only be done when it is safe to do so and without gaining any lasting advantage. At the absolute discretion of the race director a driver may be given the opportunity to give back the whole of any advantage he gained by leaving the track.

A driver may not deliberately leave the track without justifiable reason.


LRW put forward his understanding of this rule earlier....it's the bolded part which is key. If Lewis has kept the gap at 1.6-2 seconds and didn't close up again I believe the stewards would be forced to intervene. Unfortunately Lewis kept the pressure on and closed up in 2 laps again and in the end it backfired big time on him. Sometimes you do have to be cunning in these circumstances and Lewis wasn't cunning enough.

Though I really wouldn't put money on the stewards penalizing Rosberg even if Lewis did the smart thing.


Yeah, it would've been too harsh I think. Tough call, and Rosberg had already lost over 2 seconds from his car starting to fail.
What are the options? Warning, 5 seconds, or drive-through? If those are the only options then a warning was the fair decision.
#404230
Mark Hughes wrote on his review that Lewis lost it into T10 on Lap 36 and Nico into T1 on Lap 37.


Don't think so. Others have already said Rosberg went out first. And I posted earlier the laps when Rosberg lost .9s. That was around lap 22/23 I think. Keep in mind that after the power failure the rest of the race Rosberg was in and out of power failure. He had laps 1.22 and 1.19 throughout the rest of the race, so it'd make sense that his two second loss to Hamilton was due to power failure.
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