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By LH44
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22 points at this stage of the season is manageable and I think Vettel was in a far worse position in 2010. I was surprised when Rosberg was let off for not just cutting the chicane but also riding more curb than was allowed as suggested by the radio message to Hamilton. The FOM coverage once again left a lot to be desired.
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By 1Lemon
#403832
Don't forget guys. Double points could f*** this all up.
#403847
Great dice between these two again today, just a shame it was cut short with the mechanical issues.
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22 points at this stage of the season is manageable and I think Vettel was in a far worse position in 2010. I was surprised when Rosberg was let off for not just cutting the chicane but also riding more curb than was allowed as suggested by the radio message to Hamilton. The FOM coverage once again left a lot to be desired.


He's got off with things two races in a row now. I wonder what would have happenned had the positions been reversed?
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We can see the relative strengths of the two drivers. Lewis has been umlucky, he gave his team mate space on the first corner just like he did last year at a race Nico won. We see Nico having to cut corners to stay ahead of his teammate even when he starts ahead.

There are still many races to go and F1 history tells us there is still a lot more drama to come. Seb has won the WDc from much worse deficits and situations.

The deciding factor here is that if Nico continues pushing his luck it will turn out badly sooner or later. All Lewis has to do is continue exactly as he is and things are not bad at all in the general context.Lewis has to start each race ahead and disappear into the distance and create beter luck for himself
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By Roth
#403870
We can see the relative strengths of the two drivers. Lewis has been umlucky, he gave his team mate space on the first corner just like he did last year at a race Nico won. We see Nico having to cut corners to stay ahead of his teammate even when he starts ahead.

There are still many races to go and F1 history tells us there is still a lot more drama to come. Seb has won the WDc from much worse deficits and situations.

The deciding factor here is that if Nico continues pushing his luck it will turn out badly sooner or later. All Lewis has to do is continue exactly as he is and things are not bad at all in the general context.Lewis has to start each race ahead and disappear into the distance and create beter luck for himself


Exactly. Hamilton will feel he hasn't been beaten in a straight fight with Nico yet, and today would most probably have beaten him on pace. Now is not the time for dispondency.
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Lewis will dust himself off and claw that points deficit back in no time IMO, have to say it makes the WDC battle more interesting.
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By LH44
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As long at the stewards are consistent everything should be fine. We know Hamilton hasn’t benefitted from this common sense approach in the past and this has shades of the Schumi Monza debacle. Let’s see what happens when Hamilton pushes things to the limit.

I thought Mercedes were guilty of poor management, especially if they knew about the braking issue right from Friday practice. To allow both drivers to continue to race so aggressively knowing very well that the ongoing hybrid failure issues would have an impact on braking, to me was bad management and they could’ve easily lost both cars. Hamilton obviously paid a heavy price due to running a more aggressive brake setup but his relatively poor run of luck is bound to even out at some point. Let it be known that I love the double points thingy
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As long at the stewards are consistent everything should be fine. We know Hamilton hasn’t benefitted from this common sense approach in the past and this has shades of the Schumi Monza debacle. Let’s see what happens when Hamilton pushes things to the limit.

I thought Mercedes were guilty of poor management, especially if they knew about the braking issue right from Friday practice. To allow both drivers to continue to race so aggressively knowing very well that the ongoing hybrid failure issues would have an impact on braking, to me was bad management and they could’ve easily lost both cars. Hamilton obviously paid a heavy price due to running a more aggressive brake setup but his relatively poor run of luck is bound to even out at some point. Let it be known that I love the double points thingy


What could the anerc management have done exactly? Apart from impose team orders that there was to be no racing which would be handing Rosberg the win, after Monaco? No chance. Or they could have given Lewis the win, again not likely
If they had asked both drivers to stick to low modes or lower straight line speeds to help braking each would have ignored and used all they had to beat the other

This is what happens when teammates race, if it was Ferrari they would have no problems sacrificing one car or using one car to hold off the rest etc, but that is boring and like their slipstreaming normally doesn't work anyway
#403928
Hamilton obviously paid a heavy price due to running a more aggressive brake setup but his relatively poor run of luck is bound to even out at some point. Let it be known that I love the double points thingy


On Lewis' luck, I really hope that is the case because the guy has had more than his fair share of bad racing luck...more than most racers see in their entire career. LH44, as for your love of the double points, you're nuts...but it's OK, we're still mates. :hehe:
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By LH44
#403929
To be fair having read Autosport this morning, it looks like Mercedes tried to manage the issue and asked both drivers to change ECU modes.

In the past, we know the teams can tell when the brakes are about to fail. I have no access to what radio messages were exchanged so can only speculate. I thought the high speed late brake chase that concluded with Hamilton finally smashing up his brakes could’ve been avoided, as shown by the lift and coast approach Rosberg had to adopt in bringing the car home. I don’t think both drivers are daft enough to ignore such safety critical instruction and if they were going to fight they would’ve done it elsewhere and not on a straight. Let’s be honest, without the rear guard action from the Force India he probably would’ve been looking at 4th at best (Rosberg that is)
#403970
Lewis' retirements seem to be freak ones. Oz was a 50p tube snapping on the way to the grid and today his brakes cooked in the pits and failed into T10, both could have easily been Nico but whatever, nothing will change the result.
#403978
The other side of this is that Hamilton was driving too aggressive for the known problems. His pace was also likely ahead of Rosberg's because Rosberg's car began to fail earlier. This was a great drive from Rosberg, and right now they're quite even 'in the straights.'
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