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[Jabberwocky]

I would imagine the blame culture that Allison has grown in Ferrari is understandable, plus the less risks the engineers take the slower the car, the slower the car the less risks the engineers want to take.

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[darwin dali]

BTW Spanky, don't know if you've gotten the chance to see this, the next time you're stateside maybe try and look it up. This was shown before the start of the season by NBCSports, haven't found and streamable source, it was a worthwhile watch even for a non tifosi.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3417244/

I've seen reruns of it on NBCSN as well. Will is such a boy in the candy store!

[What's Burning?]

BTW Spanky, don't know if you've gotten the chance to see this, the next time you're stateside maybe try and look it up. This was shown before the start of the season by NBCSports, haven't found and streamable source, it was a worthwhile watch even for a non tifosi.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3417244/

I've seen reruns of it on NBCSN as well. Will is such a boy in the candy store!

Will's pants stole the show.

[darwin dali]

BTW Spanky, don't know if you've gotten the chance to see this, the next time you're stateside maybe try and look it up. This was shown before the start of the season by NBCSports, haven't found and streamable source, it was a worthwhile watch even for a non tifosi.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3417244/

I've seen reruns of it on NBCSN as well. Will is such a boy in the candy store!

Will's pants stole the show.

I didn't pay attention to them. Were they of Jarno Trulli on cross country skis quality?

[What's Burning?]

Primary colors skinny legs paired with a sensible pair of Toms.

[What's Burning?]

It's a good thing Kimi is beloved by all. I remember some drivers making silly mistakes and trying too hard to get results in a less than dominant car and being raked over the coals by the media et al.

ESPNF1 Kimi Raikkonen believes his return to Ferrari has been hampered by incidents outside of his control this season after suffering several incidents at key points in races.

Raikkonen's form has been the subject of speculation this year, with his highly-anticipated move back to Ferrari so far not living up to pre-season expectations - partly due to struggles with car set-up. He looked set for his best finish of the season in Monaco and his first ahead of team-mate Fernando Alonso in 2014, running third after a superb start, but it was jeopardised by a puncture caused by a collision with the lapped Max Chilton under the safety car.

Raikkonen also had two incidents with Kevin Magnussen earlier in the season and he feels he has already seen his fair share of bad luck this year.

"I have driven well many times, but there's always been something going wrong in the races - like punctures from other people hitting me - and it's just never come together really," Raikkonen said. "It's a shame. Again we had a good position [in Monaco] but got a puncture so it's just bad luck.

"Small things go wrong and make a massive difference in the end."

Raikkonen knows Ferrari still has a big job to do to catch Mercedes and Red Bull but thinks the team can achieve it in time.

"Obviously we need to improve in a lot of areas. We've done a lot of things, particularly with the engine and stuff like that to improve already, but we are still lacking the speed we need to compete with Mercedes, they are still quite a way ahead of us. We know what we have to do but those things are not easy to fix, it just takes time.

"We know where the weaknesses are but if everyone could improve theirs everyone would have a fast car. Once we get a good feeling with things I'm sure it's going to be a lot better. But until we get the results and things fixed we have to keep fighting and hopefully be a bit more lucky in the future."

[spankyham]

It's a good thing Kimi is beloved by all. ...

I'd love to have a night out on the turps with Kimi

[sagi58]

The media find fault in anyone it doesn't favour.
They're convinced Kimi is this and Kimi is that,
and look for ways to perpetuate their own myth.

'Nough said!

[LewEngBridewell]

It's a good thing Kimi is beloved by all. ...

I'd love to have a night out on the turps with Kimi

Apparently, he's a bit more communicative when out on the lash...

[sagi58]

It's a good thing Kimi is beloved by all. ...

I'd love to have a night out on the turps with Kimi

Apparently, he's a bit more communicative when out on the lash...

p.s. Most people are... unfortunately!!

[sagi58]

Here's an article that originally appeared on Autosport; but, you can only view it with a subscription.

 wrote:">Why Ferrari doesn't need Adrian Newey
While any team would benefit from having one of the greatest technical minds in motorsport history on its side, EDD STRAW argues that Ferrari already has strong technical leadership...

If you have a subscription, here's the Autosport link: http://plus.autosport.com/premium/featu ... ian-newey/

[Jabberwocky]

IMHO I think if Ferrari cared less about winning they would win more.

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[CookinFlat6]

IMHO I think if Ferrari cared less about winning they would win more.

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beating the likes of Merc and RBR nowadays requires a seriously well planned and well executed strategy typically unfolding over several years of assembling the right guys in every position through the team. It also helps to have a reg change that is anticipated and prepared for well in advance. It took RBR years to start winning and that was when the reg change they had planned for happened, same as Merc. It took MS, Brawn et al several years even with the ready made dream team they surgically extracted from Benetton.

So far ferrari have not had any long term plan, just knee jerk reactions and poaching isolated stars without an overall game plan. IMO, actually thats also the opinion of Luca and the FIAT board as finally they are talking about 'results coming over time' and 'not expecting overnight success'
Luca has obviously been strong armed to change and the new guy Mattacici looks smart and savvy and his business background would suggest that he knows how to build things that stand up by starting with the foundations and having a multi year plan. If Luca lets him get on with it like he let Todt get on with it then given Ferraris resources their time should come.

However this is assuming no more Montezemolo initiatives like hiring Italians only or expecting the rest of F1 to let them win or make the rules easier for them because of their history

Thing is Alonso and Kimi cannot be part of Matticacis long term plans. Lewis left McLaren because they couldnt provide a winning car or support service, Alonso really needs to be looking himself in the mirror if he doesnt win any more WCs as he cant blame the team if they decide to focus on strong success in 5 years time rather than fleeting success in the next year or so.

The new guy is probably looking around and thinking 'why didnt they get me in years ago, look at all the talent and resources these guys have wasted' Fry, Costa, Alonso, Kimi - all top talents but not part of a well planned long term plan, just knee jerk style 'lets get Newey and all our problems are solved, sack Allinson, quick he has had a whole year etc etc'

Now I know this is the Ferrari supporters thread and ferrari supporters like to hear nice things about the team, so before we get any sobbing this carefully thought out post is a response to jabbers post. Jabbers post has a silmilar sentiment its just that I have taken the liberty to go into detail and expand on the theme. So any whinging should be directed at him

We had a thread about what was wrong at ferrari to which unfortunately there was not a single comment from the ferrari supporters, but now that Ferrari themselves have confirmed a lot of the points brought up I am assuming we can discuss the team objectively

[Jabberwocky]

CF6 used a lot more words than I would of. My feelings is that Ferrari have for a while been scared of messing up so have not been innovative or taken technical risks for fear of failure. With Mattacici running things hopefully the fear of losing will go. Allowing leaps of faith and innovation.

To some extent Whitmarsh's Mclaren bred the same philosophy.

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[CookinFlat6]

I rather liked your previous drilled down premise that they were trying too hard to win to actually take a step back and not think about winning while they created the foundations for winning. In the end its the same thing as individuals too scared of failure to innovate

The new guy is spot on and recognises that its his job to create an environment and culture that allows individuals to thrive and do their best without worrying about taking the bullet if they screw up. because when its a functional team with a strategy and game plan, individual failure etc is absorbed by the structure in place, by the whole team, and by the guy in charge. But this takes a good few years as the guys gotta get people in place and feeling secure and understanding their place in the structure

I am not convinced that this can happen with montezemolo around or the fans etc who will want instant success or start pointing fingers or demanding rule changes etc, all this will do is divert from the hard work of the new guy and get individuals looking over shoulders again.

Maybe they need to say 'we are really not that good BUT we have a new plan and we will get better' just like the new guy is saying as it goes