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[ang4f1]

Wonder if Ron Dennis sent this ...
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/47 ... 10/photo/1

[bud]

Epic race!

[Nin-Chin]

Jenson Button expects fellow countryman Lewis Hamilton to come back 'stronger than ever' in the Canadian Grand Prix next week.

Button was paired with Hamilton at McLaren from 2000-2012 and added that the 29-year-old will probably blitz it at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve as he looks to put a difficult weekend in Monaco behind him.

Hamilton finished second at the Principality, but remained unhappy with events the previous day, when his Mercedes team-mate, Nico Rosberg went off on his final run in the top-ten shootout and brought out the yellow flags. That meant Hamilton had to abort his lap, handing Rosberg a controversial pole – and pole position is everything in Monte Carlo given the tight and twisty nature of the street circuit where it is almost impossible to pass.

"Whether Nico did it on purpose or not, Lewis is going to think that he did and that is the way when you are team-mates fighting for a world championship," Button told British newspaper, The Guardian. "But you will see a more determined Lewis at the next race.

"I remember with Lewis that when we had a tussle in a race or there was an issue between us or with the team, he would have a really bad race and be quite outspoken and emotional. And at the next race he would destroy me. He would come back stronger than ever."

"In Spa [in 2012], we had the issue of running different downforce levels and he did not like that. It hurt him that weekend, but he came back and won the next race," Button recalled.

"He is very good at turning it around because he is a super driver, he is very fast and he can wrestle a car around a circuit. The mind games people play on him will not work.

"Initially, he is an emotional character, and he will be quite hurt, but he comes back strong. After a bad race he would arrive at the next one very quiet, and then go out and blitz it.

"He will do the same in Canada – he will probably be untouchable in Canada. And he likes the circuit," Button added.

[sagi58]

Apparently Lewis cheated in Spain to stay ahead by turning up the power on his engine higher than his team wanted, however he had 3 more kg of fuel in reserve compared to Nico.

But Nico did this in Bahrain to try to get past Lewis...so Spain just evened thing up...

So... two wrongs make it right? Interesting!

[stonemonkey]

An eye for an eye.

[What's Burning?]

Apparently Lewis cheated in Spain to stay ahead by turning up the power on his engine higher than his team wanted, however he had 3 more kg of fuel in reserve compared to Nico.

But Nico did this in Bahrain to try to get past Lewis...so Spain just evened thing up...

So... two wrongs make it right? Interesting!

Wait, what exactly is "wrong" with it?

[1Lemon]

An eye for an eye.

Some dirt for an eye.

[stonemonkey]

Jenson Button expects fellow countryman Lewis Hamilton to come back 'stronger than ever' in the Canadian Grand Prix next week.

Button was paired with Hamilton at McLaren from 2000-2012 and added that the 29-year-old will probably blitz it at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve as he looks to put a difficult weekend in Monaco behind him.

Snip.

They were team mates for 13 years! Maybe it just seemed like that for Button.

[racechick]

Apparently Lewis cheated in Spain to stay ahead by turning up the power on his engine higher than his team wanted, however he had 3 more kg of fuel in reserve compared to Nico.

But Nico did this in Bahrain to try to get past Lewis...so Spain just evened thing up...

So... two wrongs make it right? Interesting!

Two engine turn ups even things out. Qualifying was a whole different ball game. But there's another thread for that now.

[sagi58]

Apparently Lewis cheated in Spain to stay ahead by turning up the power on his engine higher than his team wanted, however he had 3 more kg of fuel in reserve compared to Nico.

But Nico did this in Bahrain to try to get past Lewis...so Spain just evened thing up...

So... two wrongs make it right? Interesting!

Wait, what exactly is "wrong" with it?

Hamilton turned the power up higher than the team wanted.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest there was some sort
of technical reason why they didn't want him to.

IF Rosberg did the same thing, then maybe the rationale is the
same; but, you'd think they'd have cleared the air in a team
meeting, right?

[racechick]

Apparently Lewis cheated in Spain to stay ahead by turning up the power on his engine higher than his team wanted, however he had 3 more kg of fuel in reserve compared to Nico.

But Nico did this in Bahrain to try to get past Lewis...so Spain just evened thing up...

So... two wrongs make it right? Interesting!

Wait, what exactly is "wrong" with it?

Hamilton turned the power up higher than the team wanted.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest there was some sort
of technical reason why they didn't want him to.

IF Rosberg did the same thing, then maybe the rationale is the
same; but, you'd think they'd have cleared the air in a team
meeting, right?

Oh Rosberg did do the same thing.......first. Perhaps the air was cleared, but then came Monaco qualifying, and the air got very murky again.
There's another thread for this discussion now.

To refer back to the article where Jenson commented about Lewis , the thing that most surprised me was his comment that mind games won't work on Lewis. He should know, I'm sure he tried them. People suggest that Lewis' weakness is his mental vulnerability, this suggests otherwise. Jenson says he just comes back stronger.

[sagi58]

...To refer back to the article where Jenson commented about Lewis , the thing that most surprised me was his comment that mind games won't work on Lewis. He should know, I'm sure he tried them. People suggest that Lewis' weakness is his mental vulnerability, this suggests otherwise. Jenson says he just comes back stronger.

I don't know that "mental vulnerability" is how I'd describe Hamilton's state of mind; however, in Monaco,
I noticed that he did seem more preoccupied with looking for reasons why he wasn't ahead of Rosberg rather
than getting in front of Rosberg. Do you remember I mentioned it in the chatroom? He seemed to "need" to
know right then and there why he wasn't brought in earlier (after the SC was deployed). I did suggested that
he shouldn't worry about the ""what if"" in the heat of the moment and concentrate on what he need to do,
right then and there. YES! He does have the right to understand the rationalizations; but, that discussion
should be had after the race finished.

Just an observation and not a criticism!!

[bud]

Thinking on the job is a flaw? Im sure it didn't take away anything from his will to overtake the leader...

[sagi58]

That's not what I said, nor what I meant.

Thinking on the run is important, in ALL jobs; but, timing is everything.
Once a decision is made and it's irreversible, it's important to focus on
what's next rather than on why a different decision wasn't arrived at.

Again, it's not a criticism; merely an observation.

[What's Burning?]

That's not what I said, nor what I meant.

Thinking on the run is important, in ALL jobs; but, timing is everything.
Once a decision is made and it's irreversible, it's important to focus on
what's next rather than on why a different decision wasn't arrived at.

Again, it's not a criticism; merely an observation.

You observe Hamilton a lot.