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#402586
The thing that makes this most suspicious to me is that he'd have just seen that he was down on time on that straight before the corner, that and the strange movements with the wheel, that wasn't just missing his braking point or locking up. Also, I'm not convinced that 'no further action to be taken' means they don't think he was at fault.

I think it's a crack showing in Rosberg after being beaten race after race.
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By Denthúl
#402587
I think this argument will likely rage on for the remainder of the season.

On a different note, does anyone know if Nico's green gloves are a one-off or has he worn those in previous races? I thought he was still sporting the bright yellow ones, so I was a little confused at first this weekend.
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By racechick
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The thing that makes this most suspicious to me is that he'd have just seen that he was down on time on that straight before the corner, that and the strange movements with the wheel, that wasn't just missing his braking point or locking up. Also, I'm not convinced that 'no further action to be taken' means they don't think he was at fault.

I think it's a crack showing in Rosberg after being beaten race after race.


I agree with you Stonemonkey. And Rosberg knows it, he was getting desperate. It was do or die this weekend and he made his choice, but he's only buying a little time. And I think he's lost some supporters this weekend.
#402590
I think this argument will likely rage on for the remainder of the season.


Imagine what would happen if Nico were to win the title by just a couple of points?!?! :yikes:
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By Denthúl
#402591
I think this argument will likely rage on for the remainder of the season.


Imagine what would happen if Nico were to win the title by just a couple of points?!?! :yikes:


#LewisHamiltonTRUEChampion
#402593
I think this argument will likely rage on for the remainder of the season.


Imagine what would happen if Nico were to win the title by just a couple of points?!?! :yikes:


Lew, that's the only thing that bothers me about this 2014 Championship. So few points between P1 and P2, Lewis has to be up by 51 points over Nico prior to Abu Dhabi to ensure the WDC. In other words, Lewis can win a bunch more races than Nico and if only separated by 49 points and Lewis has failure in the last race (like he did in 2013), Nico wins the WDC with the race win. I've said it before and I'll say it again, that double points for the last race is dumb! It's so artificial and unnecessary.
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By sagi58
#402601
For you, perhaps.

On the UK feed Brundle said that Lewis had more-or-less matched Nico, and the official timing supports that case rather than this five tenths.

That's what I thought I heard!!

Regardless, a lap isn't about one sector, so even if one driver is up on the other,
in one sector or another, in the end lap time means the whole lap, no? :yes:
#402603
Brundle said that Lewis had more-or-less matched Nico and the official timing supports that case rather than this five tenths.
So which was it, more or less?

You don't complete a lap it's aborted, no time is recorded until you cross the start finish as part of a lap. Why announcers looking at the F1 sector feeds make something like that up? I don't know, maybe they were lying? Maybe Lewis blew his wad in Q2 and wasn't going to beat him in Q3, I mean Nico has a history of beating Lewis to pole position right?

In any case, sometimes it's just as important to be lucky as it is to be good.

But to your point Sagi, that's exactly right, Lewis wasn't able to complete his lap so we "just don't know". Thank god it didn't affect any of the important drivers in red, otherwise you'd be all up in arms. :hehe:
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By sagi58
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But to your point Sagi, that's exactly right, Lewis wasn't able to complete his lap so we "just don't know". Thank god it didn't affect any of the important drivers in red, otherwise you'd be all up in arms. :hehe:

Darned tootin' I would be!! But, don't worry about me,
I'm enjoying watching you have the same reaction!! :hehe:
#402608
But to your point Sagi, that's exactly right, Lewis wasn't able to complete his lap so we "just don't know". Thank god it didn't affect any of the important drivers in red, otherwise you'd be all up in arms. :hehe:

Darned tootin' I would be!! But, don't worry about me,
I'm enjoying watching you have the same reaction!! :hehe:

Well, not the SAME reaction, Mercedes did get a 1-2 finish. That's a bit better than where Ferrari ended its day. I mean, it's kind of disappointing when I'm craving a bottle of Dome Perignon and have to settle for Perrier Jouet. I'll have to suffer through it I guess.
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By sagi58
#402609
But to your point Sagi, that's exactly right, Lewis wasn't able to complete his lap so we "just don't know". Thank god it didn't affect any of the important drivers in red, otherwise you'd be all up in arms. :hehe:

Darned tootin' I would be!! But, don't worry about me,
I'm enjoying watching you have the same reaction!! :hehe:

Well, not the SAME reaction, Mercedes did get a 1-2 finish. That's a bit better than where Ferrari ended its day. I mean, it's kind of disappointing when I'm craving a bottle of Dome Perignon and have to settle for Perrier Jouet. I'll have to suffer through it I guess.

You can't compare apples and oranges! We're talking about winning streaks!
And, Ferrari has had their share of them...
oh, wait, they've had the looooongest winning streak in F1 history! :thumbup:
#402610
Yes and that's a topic you can discuss to your heart's content in the Mia Scuderia lounge.
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By Denthúl
#402622
Brundle said that Lewis had more-or-less matched Nico and the official timing supports that case rather than this five tenths.
So which was it, more or less?

You don't complete a lap it's aborted, no time is recorded until you cross the start finish as part of a lap. Why announcers looking at the F1 sector feeds make something like that up? I don't know, maybe they were lying? Maybe Lewis blew his wad in Q2 and wasn't going to beat him in Q3, I mean Nico has a history of beating Lewis to pole position right?


Maybe I'm just reading it wrong, but the tone of that seems somewhat childish.

Anyway, to address the actual point, I don't know why they said what they said - I wasn't listening to them, and I wasn't there with them. Lewis' final lap time was recorded in the FIA timing documents, so there is no reason that the sector times from this lap wouldn't be. In addition, we've seen in past qualifying events where a team has only been doing one flying lap, they will initially go out and just record a few sector times on old tyres without completing a lap, to give them something to fall back on. Now, maybe there's a chance that you're right and it hasn't been recorded, but personally I don't think that's the case and I believe that this plus time was relative to his own PB. I guess unless we can actually find someone with a full breakdown, we'll never be 100% sure one way or another.

What I find strange though is that we know Hamilton is fiercely competitive and will push the limits. If he was two tenths (or more, as some apparently have said) up on the pole time in the first sector, then I would expect him to do the very minimum required to count as lifting in that corner, before pushing on with his lap. He'd have had a few tenths advantage from S1, had been the faster Mercedes driver in S2 pretty much all weekend, and would have a very good shot at snatching pole if this was the case. I guess ultimately we'll never know. Maybe he started lifting well before he got to Mirabeau?
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