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#402406
Denthúl wrote:
racechick wrote:WhenLewis passed him Rosberg was reversing back to the track
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On the incident of bringing out red flags it depends on the incident. Schumacher got penalised for doing it at Rascass. I'm sure others have been penalised if they've acted recklessly, I can't remember all the incidents.
Schumacher did get a penalty, but the stewards determined that there was foul play in that instance. This was not the case here. Simply going off-track is not acting recklessly.

With regards to the Tweet, Rosberg was still on the run-off (and had stopped reversing) when Hamilton passed, as shown on Hamilton's onboard video.
He may have stopped, but the fact he'd been reversing in that direction, and was reversing when he saw Lewis means the flags had to stay out, what if he hadn't stopped? He should have stayed tucked away down that lane until everyone was past then the flags could have gone in.
#402407
racechick wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
racechick wrote:WhenLewis passed him Rosberg was reversing back to the track
image.jpg
On the incident of bringing out red flags it depends on the incident. Schumacher got penalised for doing it at Rascass. I'm sure others have been penalised if they've acted recklessly, I can't remember all the incidents.
Schumacher did get a penalty, but the stewards determined that there was foul play in that instance. This was not the case here. Simply going off-track is not acting recklessly.

With regards to the Tweet, Rosberg was still on the run-off (and had stopped reversing) when Hamilton passed, as shown on Hamilton's onboard video.
He may have stopped, but the fact he'd been reversing in that direction, and was reversing when he saw Lewis means the flags had to stay out, what if he hadn't stopped? He should have stayed tucked away down that lane until everyone was past then the flags could have gone in.
If he hadn't stopped, it would be a different matter, but he did.

You can't guarantee that him staying at the end would have meant the yellows would have gone away, either. The sector went yellow whilst he was stationary down at one end of the escape road, which indicates that the marshals believed the car to be dangerous where it was at that point anyway. Ultimately, nothing he did breached any regulations, the footage and telemetry backs his assertion that it was merely a simple error, and both the stewards and team agree on this.
#402408
Denthúl wrote:
racechick wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
racechick wrote:WhenLewis passed him Rosberg was reversing back to the track
image.jpg
On the incident of bringing out red flags it depends on the incident. Schumacher got penalised for doing it at Rascass. I'm sure others have been penalised if they've acted recklessly, I can't remember all the incidents.
Schumacher did get a penalty, but the stewards determined that there was foul play in that instance. This was not the case here. Simply going off-track is not acting recklessly.

With regards to the Tweet, Rosberg was still on the run-off (and had stopped reversing) when Hamilton passed, as shown on Hamilton's onboard video.
He may have stopped, but the fact he'd been reversing in that direction, and was reversing when he saw Lewis means the flags had to stay out, what if he hadn't stopped? He should have stayed tucked away down that lane until everyone was past then the flags could have gone in.
If he hadn't stopped, it would be a different matter, but he did.

You can't guarantee that him staying at the end would have meant the yellows would have gone away, either. The sector went yellow whilst he was stationary down at one end of the escape road, which indicates that the marshals believed the car to be dangerous where it was at that point anyway. Ultimately, nothing he did breached any regulations, the footage and telemetry backs his assertion that it was merely a simple error, and both the stewards and team agree on this.
No. I can't guarantee the yellows would have gone away, but they may have done.

The team aren't going to disagree with him are they, that would mean one of their cars being penalised, but a lot of other teams personnel thought the whole episode deliberate, not just the reversing and Johnny Herbert did.
#402416
oaba09 wrote:The stewards investigated and the telemetry showed that there's NOTHING deliberate. The only thing nico is guilty of is his attitude at the end.

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Yes, that's the way it looks.
#402418
oaba09 wrote:The stewards investigated and the telemetry showed that there's NOTHING deliberate. The only thing nico is guilty of is his attitude at the end.
You forgot to mention that he is guilty of "taking" pole away from Hamilton!
Tsk... tsk... tsk... what was Rosberg thinking? Doesn't he know his place? :yikes:

((Please excuse the sarcams; but, really? Of course he'd be happy with getting
pole position, that's what drivers want, especially here in Monaco!! Rosberg
obviously recognizes that starting on pole gives him an advantage on a track
where passing isn't exactly the norm. Why wouldn't he be happy? He is already
on the back foot, after Hamilton literally whittled away his "huge" lead in the
championship! Let's cut him some slack, as even pole doesn't guarantee him
a win, regardless of how he got there!!))
#402420
Passing will be a little more achievable here now.

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#402423
Interesting fact:-

GP2 cars would have qualified and in some cases been faster, than F1 cars this weekend :yes:
#402428
Define in some cases?

In some cases I can get to the moon, but only when I strap a ducking rocket to my face!
#402429
1Lemon wrote:Define in some cases?

In some cases I can get to the moon, but only when I strap a ducking rocket to my face!
Lol, well leaving aside the improvements that might make to your looks .......

The qualifying time of GP2 cars was inside the time needed to start plus at least one of the GP2 cars qualifying time was faster than an F1 car yesterday.
#402430
Can someone show any footage of nico backing out into traffic?

david hobbs was just mentioning before nico had his off that he thought nico had slowed down a little too much before he started that lap and so his tires would be a little too cold to best his top lap, and then seconds later nico almost binned it. I'll take his word and the FIA's!!
#402432
Has anyone stopped to think, "maybe lewis should have put in a faster bank lap?" I mean really, at monaco, qualifying goes differently than other tracks, i.e. top teams come out right away to get a lap in. At most other tracks ferrari, red bull, mercedes, and mclaren generally go out a little later than usual while the midfielders and backmarkers go out right away to put their laps in because the top teams know the risk of not getting a lap in is a lot lower than at monaco or a rainy session. In rainy sessions and monaco they put bank laps in because $#@! can go wrong at any time, i.e. yellow flags, crashes, etc. So, lewis should have put in a bank lap faster than his teammate's straight away. It's his own fault, not nico's. This isn't the first time yellow flags have happened in monaco qualifying and it won't be the last.

HATS OFF TO NICO FOR BEING BETTER AT MONACO QUALIFYING THAN LEWIS:clap::clap::clap::D:D:D
#402433
oaba09 wrote:The stewards investigated and the telemetry showed that there's NOTHING deliberate. The only thing nico is guilty of is his attitude at the end.

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No it doesn't - it shows that there is no way to prove that it was deliberate. It's impossible to prove that it wasn't deliberate, just as it's impossible to prove that it was.

However just because you can't PROVE it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Personally I think he meant it, others think he didn't. I'm fine with both opinions. What I'm not fine with is anyone trying to say that anything is absolute proof one way or the other, because that is literally impossible to substantiate.
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