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[Denthúl]

Looking at past incidents, cars going into small escape roads like that tend to result in local yellows being left out regardless, so they would likely have finished the session with that sector (I believe it was marshall sector five) under yellows anyway.

On the subject of the steering input, the stewards viewed the telemetry and footage, and determined that nothing was amiss. The team have also released a statement saying that it was to correct for a mistake. Given that Toto is one of Lewis' biggest supporters, do you really think he'd be happy to back Rosberg 100% if something was wonky?

[RyRy]

RyRy if it was all deliberate then he did quite well, protected his pole, picked a good spot, didn't damage his car and didn't get a penalty by being obvious, like Schumacher did at Rascass.

If the initial weird wheel turning was accidental ( I'll accept that possibly it was) Why did he reverse back out that little lane. If he'd stayed in the yellows could have gone before Lewis or others got there, as it was, all their laps were ruined.

Watch the onboard from the start of that lap he was overdriving it because he was under pressure and he made one tiny mistake and then got even more aggressive with his driving.

Damaging his car isn't a problem, he could of drove into the wall and it wouldn't of old effects him tomorrow.

The yellows should of been removed straight away, as far as I know he didn't drive out until Lewis has passed.

They're friend and have a good working and personal relationship, I highly doubt he would do something to put that jeopardy. No one wants a holo pole or win.

[racechick]

Did you see Lewis after quali? I don't think the friend thing holds up from here on in.( that said fans at the track said Lewis still came over to them, chatted , signed things, Nico cleared off.)

Toto may be a Lewis fan, I don't know, Merc have treated their drivers very fairly. But whatever really happened in quali they'd have to support Nico publically and in front of the stewards, otherwise it could be one car at the front and one at the back rather than two at the front.

I doubt the whole thing started deliberately, he overcooked it trying too hard because Lewis was up on his time, but he made the error yet he retains pole. That's not fair.

[Denthúl]

Yeah, I saw him. I found his reaction quite interesting, for someone who is supposed to be a friend.

I doubt the whole thing started deliberately, he overcooked it trying too hard because Lewis was up on his time, but he made the error yet he retains pole. That's not fair.

...what? Are you seriously advocating penalising someone for making a simple mistake? Please clarify, because the way you've written it sounds utterly ridiculous.

Edit: To be more clear, it sounds like you want him to be penalised just because his mistake ultimately led to the yellow being brought out.

[LiamCatterson]

And another reason why to hate on Beliebers...YEY, BIEBER IS GOD....I swear to god, I am so close to creating a petition to get Maldonado to crash into Bieber and his army of Beliebers....This has dumb written all over

[racechick]

Yeah, I saw him. I found his reaction quite interesting, for someone who is supposed to be a friend.

I doubt the whole thing started deliberately, he overcooked it trying too hard because Lewis was up on his time, but he made the error yet he retains pole. That's not fair.

...what? Are you seriously advocating penalising someone for making a simple mistake? Please clarify, because the way you've written it sounds utterly ridiculous.

Edit: To be more clear, it sounds like you want him to be penalised just because his mistake ultimately led to the yellow being brought out.

Of course people get penalised for making mistakes...all the time!!
People get penalised when they block other drivers, they don't have to block deliberately. People get penalised when they crash into other drivers, they don't have to crash into them deliberately. Ericsson got a penalty today for doing something very similar to Rosberg, overcooking it. He didn't have an escape rd to go up, he hit Massa, it wasn't deliberate but he got penalised. If you impede other drivers you are likely to get a penalty. Why is that ridiculous, it's the rules?

[racechick]

And another reason why to hate on Beliebers...YEY, BIEBER IS GOD....I swear to god, I am so close to creating a petition to get Maldonado to crash into Bieber and his army of Beliebers....This has dumb written all over

I think he is doing the interviews.

[LiamCatterson]

And another reason why to hate on Beliebers...YEY, BIEBER IS GOD....I swear to god, I am so close to creating a petition to get Maldonado to crash into Bieber and his army of Beliebers....This has dumb written all over

I think he is doing the interviews.

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Okay...I will say this once....



HE BETTER NOT!

I DON'T CARE...OKAY, BIEBER BEING ON F1 ALONE IS KILLING THE SPORT, BUT IF HE DOES THE INTERVIEWS, I WILL TRAVEL TO MONACO, ASSASSINATE HIM AND HEY, I AM A HERO...SO MUCH RAGE...I AM MORE CHEESED OFF THAN LEWIS IS RIGHT NOW

[Roth]

Whether it was deliberate or not (I think not), Hamilton can only take good stuff from this. He knows a) he would probably have been quicker, and gotten pole, b) Nico is making a habit of cracking at the pointy end of Q3 c) if it was intentional and Nico's already resorting to these kind of tactics then Hamilton's already won the psychological battle d) with a well set up car Hamilton's shown he's better on tyres and fuel economy, so can bide his time and take him during a pitstop.

[Denthúl]

Of course people get penalised for making mistakes...all the time!!
People get penalised when they block other drivers, they don't have to block deliberately. People get penalised when they crash into other drivers, they don't have to crash into them deliberately. Ericsson got a penalty today for doing something very similar to Rosberg, overcooking it. He didn't have an escape rd to go up, he hit Massa, it wasn't deliberate but he got penalised. If you impede other drivers you are likely to get a penalty. Why is that ridiculous, it's the rules?

The Ericsson scenario is entirely different. He didn't get penalised for causing a yellow flag, or causing any other driver to abort their lap. He was penalised for a collision.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone penalised for bringing out a flag that caused aborted laps, unless some other incident was involved (which is not the case here). We've had red flags that come out a minute from the end of a session, would you say we should penalise the driver who caused those?

[racechick]

Of course people get penalised for making mistakes...all the time!!
People get penalised when they block other drivers, they don't have to block deliberately. People get penalised when they crash into other drivers, they don't have to crash into them deliberately. Ericsson got a penalty today for doing something very similar to Rosberg, overcooking it. He didn't have an escape rd to go up, he hit Massa, it wasn't deliberate but he got penalised. If you impede other drivers you are likely to get a penalty. Why is that ridiculous, it's the rules?

The Ericsson scenario is entirely different. He didn't get penalised for causing a yellow flag, or causing any other driver to abort their lap. He was penalised for a collision.

I don't think I have ever seen anyone penalised for bringing out a flag that caused aborted laps, unless some other incident was involved (which is not the case here). We've had red flags that come out a minute from the end of a session, would you say we should penalise the driver who caused those?

It depends what the driver does to cause the red flag, yes some get penalised for it. rejoining the racetrack in a dangerous fashion is a punishable offence, and that's what Rosberg did.

I agree with your previous comment about the 'so called friendship' that's over after the way Rosberg behaved after celebrating the pole instead if apologising.

[Denthúl]

It depends what the driver does to cause the red flag, yes some get penalised for it. rejoining the racetrack in a dangerous fashion is a punishable offence, and that's what Rosberg did.

I would like you to prove that. When Lewis passed him, Rosberg was still on the escape road, and no other footage was displayed showing when he actually came off it. If he had rejoined the track in a dangerous manner, then the stewards could easily have penalised him for it, but nowhere in the official document does it make any mention of that.

WRT the red flag, I'm talking about someone who just makes a mistake (i.e. locks up) and goes off-track. Maybe they hit a barrier, or get beached in an awkward position that can't be dealt with under double-waved yellows. Heck, even just getting themselves beached and causing double-waved yellows would do as an example.

[racechick]

WhenLewis passed him Rosberg was reversing back to the track

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On the incident of bringing out red flags it depends on the incident. Schumacher got penalised for doing it at Rascass. I'm sure others have been penalised if they've acted recklessly, I can't remember all the incidents.

[Jabberwocky]

I don't think it is something that nice would do.

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[Denthúl]

WhenLewis passed him Rosberg was reversing back to the track

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On the incident of bringing out red flags it depends on the incident. Schumacher got penalised for doing it at Rascass. I'm sure others have been penalised if they've acted recklessly, I can't remember all the incidents.

Schumacher did get a penalty, but the stewards determined that there was foul play in that instance. This was not the case here. Simply going off-track is not acting recklessly.

With regards to the Tweet, Rosberg was still on the run-off (and had stopped reversing) when Hamilton passed, as shown on Hamilton's onboard video.