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[spankyham]

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

[sagi58]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

[spankyham]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Have faith sagi, it is not everyone that thinks Ferrari has no rights to have, express or promote their own opinions. Reasonable people understand it is a basic human right to have and promote your own view

[sagi58]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Have faith sagi, it is not everyone that thinks Ferrari has no rights to have, express or promote their own opinions. Reasonable people understand it is a basic human right to have and promote your own view

Reasonable people aren't always "unreasonably" loud!!

[Hammer278]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Have faith sagi, it is not everyone that thinks Ferrari has no rights to have, express or promote their own opinions. Reasonable people understand it is a basic human right to have and promote your own view

I ask again (since you conveniently avoided this Q in the Ferrari thread), Luca holding secret meetings at Bahrain with Bernie and Todt to "discuss changes", is this called "expressing an opinion" to you. Why have Mercedes hit back with their reasoning on why Ferrari's proposals for changes for this year are not adequate.

If you avoid this again , it's clear you simply don't have an answer.

[bud]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Have faith sagi, it is not everyone that thinks Ferrari has no rights to have, express or promote their own opinions. Reasonable people understand it is a basic human right to have and promote your own view

And that is Ferrari's view of self interest?

End of the day its just Ferrari being sore losers, Not something to be proud of!

[spankyham]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Have faith sagi, it is not everyone that thinks Ferrari has no rights to have, express or promote their own opinions. Reasonable people understand it is a basic human right to have and promote your own view

And that is Ferrari's view of self interest?

End of the day its just Ferrari being sore losers, Not something to be proud of!

You can dismiss Ferrari's view because they have performed poorly in the first 3 races, but you do know they have been against the new engine proposals for many years, in fact, from the day dot.

I also believe there is room for differing opinions and that people should not be ridiculed because they hold a different opinion to me or the mainstream.

[LewEngBridewell]

Nice job Max Chilton!

Interesting max Chilton fact. In 2013 because of Heikki's two 14th place finishes, Chilton finished 23rd out of 22 drivers.

How badly do you have to sook to end up 23rd of 22

However, this season, Max Chilton is 18th in the standings, ahead of Kobayashi (Caterham), Maldonado (Lotus), Ericsson (Caterham) and his team-mate Bianchi.

I'm just wondering if his relentless race-finishing consistency will see him land Marussia's first points this year, what with the extra unreliability? With two 13th place finishes, he's getting closer!

[bud]

Ferrari's problem is they need to do the talking on the track!
Do you honestly think that if Ferrari were in Mercs position they would be so vocal? Ferrari are never the ones to put the sport ahead of their own agenda, no way they would be complaining with a big advantage.
They are just being sore losers no matter which way you like to spin it!

[1Lemon]

Ferrari's problem is they need to do the talking on the track!
Do you honestly think that if Ferrari were in Mercs position they would be so vocal? Ferrari are never the ones to put the sport ahead of their own agenda, no way they would be complaining with a big advantage.
They are just being sore losers no matter which way you like to spin it!

No team has ever put the sport ahead of their own agenda.

[Nin-Chin]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Damn it sagi, from the content in that post I just presumed it was RC but it was actually you.

Haha.

[CookinFlat6]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Have faith sagi, it is not everyone that thinks Ferrari has no rights to have, express or promote their own opinions. Reasonable people understand it is a basic human right to have and promote your own view

I ask again (since you conveniently avoided this Q in the Ferrari thread), Luca holding secret meetings at Bahrain with Bernie and Todt to "discuss changes", is this called "expressing an opinion" to you. Why have Mercedes hit back with their reasoning on why Ferrari's proposals for changes for this year are not adequate.

If you avoid this again , it's clear you simply don't have an answer.

Why do you even bother? If someone won't answer or refuses to discuss, it's as simple as a lack of knowledge
The politeness or common decency required to acknowledge a direct answer can't be enforced on a forum although you would expect some to set an example

[sagi58]

Ferrari's problem is they need to do the talking on the track!
Do you honestly think that if Ferrari were in Mercs position they would be so vocal? Ferrari are never the ones to put the sport ahead of their own agenda, no way they would be complaining with a big advantage.
They are just being sore losers no matter which way you like to spin it!

Let's look at the flip side, for a moment, shall we?? Why isn't Mercedes complaining??
Oh, wait... that's because they are leading with a big advantage. Why didn't Red Bull
complain these last few years? Oh, that's because they were leading! Hold on!! They
did complain... about the tires and guess what?? The tires were changed to suit them!

Let's not always be quick on the anti-Ferrari joy ride, because in the end the only thing
worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.

[sagi58]

Oh, no!! Now we're going to hear about Ferrari whining and cheating, again!!

Oh, wait...

Apparently all three engine suppliers are debuting new PU's in China, i.e. all have requested and been granted homologation changes.

I guess that means it's ok!!

Damn it sagi, from the content in that post I just presumed it was RC but it was actually you.

Haha.

Sorry... I couldn't seem to find the sarcasm smiley!!

[What's Burning?]

Mercedes didn't complain about the tires last year, they just went ahead with an FiA approved tire test. Just like Ferrari is in the process of yesterday and today. We should see a tremendous leap in all of the teams that have been struggling.