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[CookinFlat6]

This is Lewis talking about how to manage the 2014 cars effectively

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26767232

I must say, to me this is the clearest and simplest put explanation that I have heard so far from countless others including Mcnish, Coulthard, Brundle, Rosberg, Wilson. In fact I would go as far as saying the cleverest combination of technical and 'feel' explanation I ever heard from a driver.
Has Lewis been sandbagging Brundle and other commentators? Is he really super intelligent in a way that academics find it hard to be?
I mean anyone can learn from books or learn languages and pass exams, it doesnt make them intelligent just more axcademically learned. The clue is when they can explain and teach the things they have learnt clearly to others and not just recite by rote

Check these snippets out

You save most fuel by lifting and coasting in the heavy braking zones at the end of long straights into slow corners.
When you're driving absolutely flat out, such as on a qualifying lap, you would brake at, say, 80m from the corner, come straight off the throttle and get on the brakes, almost instantly together.
But on a fuel-saving lap in the race you'll lift at, say, 200m, and coast to the braking zone. In an F1 car, just lifting off the throttle decelerates the car by 1G, so you still slow down quite a lot.
That means you start braking at a different place - you have to brake later than before or you'll slow down too much.
So the trick is to know how much later you have to brake depending on where you lifted.

It's really difficult to put into words exactly how you judge when you need to short-shift, because it's all done on feel.
From experience, you know where the car's limitations are, you know where it breaks traction, you know if you go aggressively on the throttle, or past a certain percentage, that you're going to break traction in first, second and third gear.
Your mind sets those limits and you're always trying to push them.
You want to pull out of the corner with a little bit of slip, but not so much it unsettles the car. Getting that exactly right is what makes us good drivers.

[racechick]

Wow!!!!!!

[What's Burning?]

And the first thing you need to be able to put things into "words" is an extremely sensitive seat of the pants. If you can't FEEL it, you're never going to be able to explain it properly.

This is going to be a tough, tough year for the people that don't dislike Lewis, they only "dislike Lewis fans"

[racechick]

I'm just so excited that Lewis is in a car( genre/ era of car) that allows him to use his talent and his instinctive feel for the car. One senses there is more to come. The things he talked about in that article will be what he meant when he said" I've learnt so much from that race". That will have been the things he was playing around with, breaking points, traction points, when to coast etc. In testing they will have been too busy testing car bits to let the drivers play, and last race he got no running, so it was his first go and he sounds mighty encouraged and upbeat about it.

[Hammer278]

This is Lewis talking about how to manage the 2014 cars effectively

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26767232

I must say, to me this is the clearest and simplest put explanation that I have heard so far from countless others including Mcnish, Coulthard, Brundle, Rosberg, Wilson. In fact I would go as far as saying the cleverest combination of technical and 'feel' explanation I ever heard from a driver.
Has Lewis been sandbagging Brundle and other commentators? Is he really super intelligent in a way that academics find it hard to be?
I mean anyone can learn from books or learn languages and pass exams, it doesnt make them intelligent just more axcademically learned. The clue is when they can explain and teach the things they have learnt clearly to others and not just recite by rote

Check these snippets out

You save most fuel by lifting and coasting in the heavy braking zones at the end of long straights into slow corners.
When you're driving absolutely flat out, such as on a qualifying lap, you would brake at, say, 80m from the corner, come straight off the throttle and get on the brakes, almost instantly together.
But on a fuel-saving lap in the race you'll lift at, say, 200m, and coast to the braking zone. In an F1 car, just lifting off the throttle decelerates the car by 1G, so you still slow down quite a lot.
That means you start braking at a different place - you have to brake later than before or you'll slow down too much.
So the trick is to know how much later you have to brake depending on where you lifted.

It's really difficult to put into words exactly how you judge when you need to short-shift, because it's all done on feel.
From experience, you know where the car's limitations are, you know where it breaks traction, you know if you go aggressively on the throttle, or past a certain percentage, that you're going to break traction in first, second and third gear.
Your mind sets those limits and you're always trying to push them.
You want to pull out of the corner with a little bit of slip, but not so much it unsettles the car. Getting that exactly right is what makes us good drivers.

Maybe he should talk less about these things, might accidentally hand some tips over to the highly intelligent drivers on track like Button for example.

[racechick]

It's not just about knowing though, it's about feeling. Being at one with your car.

[Hammer278]

It's not just about knowing though, it's about feeling. Being at one with your car.

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[racechick]

It's not just about knowing though, it's about feeling. Being at one with your car.

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Love that film so much!!

[CookinFlat6]

Maybe he should talk less about these things, might accidentally hand some tips over to the highly intelligent drivers on track like Button for example.

but hows button gonna be able to execute the things and exact points, forces and distances etc that Lewis can feel, when Button doesnt even know how to feel where the edge of grip is?

A guy who cant operate on the limit of adhesion aint gonna taking chances and will be doing the same thing each time - the textbook line through the corner etc.

This is the main culpirit with Buttons inability to develop, he cant feel things, feeling leads to compensating and hence driving around issues or changing things on the fly. He can only feel perfect things, if its not perfect he has no grip or cant max the car etc, he also cant explain issues to the engineers in simple terms because he cant feel them at a granular level like Alonso or Lewis. I seem to remember one of the staff at one of his first teams saying Button was one of the thickest drivers

But obviously he has evolved into a Brundle defined cerebral tyre and fuel manager who is so smooth he is never on the limit and so never crashes and doesnt know where the limit is, the grip suddenly disappears on him and his reading of races is correct 50% of the time

[Nin-Chin]

Damon Hill has said Lewis Hamilton is on the verge of 'something big' with Mercedes and he reckons the 2008 Formula 1 World Champion could enjoy a period of sustained success with the Silver Arrows over the next few years.

Hamilton dominated the Malaysian Grand Prix last weekend, the second round in the 2014 F1 World Championship, leading almost from start-to-finish at the Sepang International Circuit and eventually finishing more than 15 seconds up on team-mate and current championship leader, Nico Rosberg.

“He has a tough team-mate in Nico but knows how to beat him,” Hill told the Daily Record in the countdown to the race in Bahrain this Sunday. “It looks like Mercedes are going to dominate the season so you can look at maybe six or seven more wins [for Hamilton] – and that will take him up to 30 victories. If he does that and wins the championship it will be two titles and 30 GPs at only 30 years old.”

“I can then see him easily doing another 10 wins, [and] another world championship,” Hill added.

Hamilton’s win on Sunday took him to 23 F1 victories, one more than Hill managed during his career, and the 1996 F1 World Champion has predicted he could easily double that, passing the markers set by F1 legends Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost.

“Lewis could make 50 [wins] or about that – double what he has now. He’s at the start of something big for Mercedes,” Hill concluded.

[Hammer278]

Damon Hill has said Lewis Hamilton is on the verge of 'something big' with Mercedes and he reckons the 2008 Formula 1 World Champion could enjoy a period of sustained success with the Silver Arrows over the next few years.

Hamilton dominated the Malaysian Grand Prix last weekend, the second round in the 2014 F1 World Championship, leading almost from start-to-finish at the Sepang International Circuit and eventually finishing more than 15 seconds up on team-mate and current championship leader, Nico Rosberg.

“He has a tough team-mate in Nico but knows how to beat him,” Hill told the Daily Record in the countdown to the race in Bahrain this Sunday. “It looks like Mercedes are going to dominate the season so you can look at maybe six or seven more wins [for Hamilton] – and that will take him up to 30 victories. If he does that and wins the championship it will be two titles and 30 GPs at only 30 years old.”

“I can then see him easily doing another 10 wins, [and] another world championship,” Hill added.

Hamilton’s win on Sunday took him to 23 F1 victories, one more than Hill managed during his career, and the 1996 F1 World Champion has predicted he could easily double that, passing the markers set by F1 legends Ayrton Senna and Alain Prost.

“Lewis could make 50 [wins] or about that – double what he has now. He’s at the start of something big for Mercedes,” Hill concluded.

[What's Burning?]

We've seen Alonso and Hamilton win races in less than dominant cars... let's see if Vettel can manage it this year. It would be nice to have the competition to the end.

[Hammer278]

Very hard to believe but the Msian GP was Lewis' first grand chelum. Pole + Win + Fastest Lap.

[CookinFlat6]

Instead of the win it's led every lap which includes winning ofcourse

[CookinFlat6]

We've seen Alonso and Hamilton win races in less than dominant cars... let's see if Vettel can manage it this year. It would be nice to have the competition to the end.

We've also seen Seb and Alonso win in dominant cars with handicapped teammates, let's see if Lewis can win in a dominant car and beat an equally talented competitive teammate

I suspect a lot of reputations will be sealed this year