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#396088
Religious folk never cease to amaze me with their nonsense!

Palin's type of folk isn't "just" Religious, they're Religious "fanatics"! BIG difference!


That's actually a really good point sagi. There are fanatics in all walks of life, just as there are good and bad people to be found everywhere.
#396090
I thought I found the door to heaven once - ended out being the start of Walking Street in Pattaya. :-)

Is that when you decided to invest in a GPS? :angelgrin:


I'm going to reprogram my GPS favourites with that destination right now :hehe:
#396095
I thought I found the door to heaven once - ended out being the start of Walking Street in Pattaya. :-)

Is that when you decided to invest in a GPS? :angelgrin:


I'm going to reprogram my GPS favourites with that destination right now :hehe:

:thud:
#396107
Religious folk never cease to amaze me with their nonsense!

Palin's type of folk isn't "just" Religious, they're Religious "fanatics"! BIG difference!


I can't spot the difference.


I struggle to.
#396108
I can easily spot the difference between the religious fanatic/zealot and those who choose the live their lives guided by reasonable religious principles and interpretations.

Extreme / fanatical religious examples to me are suicide bombers, the violent orange marchers, the sinn fein bombers etc.

You cannot compare those extremists to the average family going to church donating to the poor and simply being guided by good religious principles.

Not that it is relevant but I am totally agnostic when it comes to religion.
#396109
The similarities , in my view, is that they all believe in something with no sound factual basis. The difference, the way they pursue their beliefs.

I don't think terrorism is reserved solely for the religious fanatic. There are plenty of others. Just as I don't believe living a life guided by good principles is the reserve only of the religious.

I've met plenty of closed minded intolerant , pious, 'religious' people. And plenty of closed minded, intolerant non religious people.
#396111
Spot on RC! It's not the religion per se, it's the person.

..... believe in something with no sound factual basis.

Kinda like how some of us like or dislike some things at first site.


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#396114
The similarities , in my view, is that they all believe in something with no sound factual basis. The difference, the way they pursue their beliefs.

I don't think terrorism is reserved solely for the religious fanatic. There are plenty of others. Just as I don't believe living a life guided by good principles is the reserve only of the religious.

I've met plenty of closed minded intolerant , pious, 'religious' people. And plenty of closed minded, intolerant non religious people.

Very well put RC, being an atheist doesn't make one any better or worse. Being religious (of any denomination) doesn't make anyone better or worse. I've been an atheist all my life really. My parents were "religious" because that's what people did, more than what they belief. I have met some deeply religious people that are genuinely good hearts and have had conversations with waitresses that have said the Sunday customers were the worst because they had just gotten back from church and are very cranky. Gotta love that. :hehe:

There is a marked difference between religion and spirituality though and I believe that human nature tends to the spiritual and therefore is an easy step towards religion and manipulation.

All that said, I think Buddhists have the best "perspectual" views on life.
#396132
I can easily spot the difference between the religious fanatic/zealot and those who choose the live their lives guided by reasonable religious principles and interpretations.

Extreme / fanatical religious examples to me are suicide bombers, the violent orange marchers, the sinn fein bombers etc.

You cannot compare those extremists to the average family going to church donating to the poor and simply being guided by good religious principles.

Not that it is relevant but I am totally agnostic when it comes to religion.


I am a firm atheist. I was (kind of) brought up as a Christian, in that I was taken to church as a child, and attended Church of England institutions of education.

However, I am totally adamant that religion is a form of people control. Put it this way, IN THE BEGINNING, fear and ignorance were rife. In order to provide explanation for naturally occurring events, mankind created the gods (God of rain, god of fire, etc etc). Out of this, came magicians, sorcerers, clergy all of whom exploited the idea of their own benefit. (This is how ruling classes and exploited classes ended up being formed, but that's another story).

To brand a child with religion, to indoctrinate it with all kinds of flawed beliefs and prejudices, to tar it with (quite often) irreparable damage to logic and intelligence, is, in my opinion, nothing short of a crime. There are some people I've come across who ask me why I criticise religion. In return, I ask them why they brand themselves as religious. They come of with the same wishy washy answers about being good to one's neighbour, helping the poor etc, all of which can be done by any decent human being, regardless of religion.

Religion causes war, conflict, division, prejudice and hatred. It causes people to retreat into a tiny shell of calculated ignorance. It's such a closed-minded thing to festoon oneself with.

As you've probably guessed, I CANNOT STAND what organised religion has done to the people of this world, and the fact that so many young people, are still being choked with it fills me with total despair. Thankfully, we have very popular key public figures who speak out against it (Professor Brian Cox, Stephen Fry, David Attenborough, etc), but there are still those who advertise themselves as religious (Justin Bieber, Lewis Hamilton, David Cameron etc), so there's still a long, long way to go before people finally see sense.
#396134
I can easily spot the difference between the religious fanatic/zealot and those who choose the live their lives guided by reasonable religious principles and interpretations.

Extreme / fanatical religious examples to me are suicide bombers, the violent orange marchers, the sinn fein bombers etc.

You cannot compare those extremists to the average family going to church donating to the poor and simply being guided by good religious principles.

Not that it is relevant but I am totally agnostic when it comes to religion.


See I have yet to see any evidence of good religious principles.
One can live a life as a good human being without the need to have the fear of god distilled into you from birth.

Religion regardless of what you call your god is all evil man made propaganda!
#396140
Sarah Palin has solved it....

The plane has Flow to Heaven.....

(now this story truly deserves to stay in this thread)


This reminded me of a story years ago in the Sunday Sport

INCREDIBLE space pictures of HEAVEN were last night backed by the Vatican as
GENUINE.


http://www.subgenius.com/subg-digest/ancient/0172.html

The Sport also reported such amazing stories as
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So maybe it could be taken with a pinch of salt.
#396238
Religious folk never cease to amaze me with their nonsense!

Palin's type of folk isn't "just" Religious, they're Religious "fanatics"! BIG difference!


I can't spot the difference.

Anyone can be Religious without being fanatical about it.
Religion, like Life, is not always about extremes. Fanatics are about
extremes; whereas, Religious people are not.

Some of us, who are Religious, balk at the fanatical believers and are
uncomfortable to be compared/lumped in with them.

Some of us, who are Religious, feel comfortable questioning the dictates
of the Church, without betraying our beliefs; whereas the fanatics would
have us lining up at the gates of hell!
#396239
...There is a marked difference between religion and spirituality though and I believe that human nature tends to the spiritual and therefore is an easy step towards religion and manipulation...

Bravo!! Spirituality is about "God"; whereas, Religions is about "man" and his take on God!
The "laws" written by man are purely subjective and reflect society at the time of writing!
#396240
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