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[What's Burning?]

I don't think that the speed matters. Anyone who has done even the slightest bit of aggressive driving knows that you can have as much fun driving a family hatchback at its limits as you can driving a hypercar. It is just if it all goes wrong in a hypercar they find you half a mile out to sea. And not just bounced of the curb at 20mph

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From a driving perspective you raise a good point which I wasn't considering, so I learned something there. Having said that, from my perspective as a spectator, previously I saw a huge difference watching GP2 V F1.

The saying goes it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

[sagi58]

The saying goes it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow.

Been there, done that!! Ask my insurance broker!!

[sagi58]

/DRIVE wrote:">McNish Tells How The 2014 F1 Cars Will Drive - /SHAKEDOWN

He drove F1, he knows about driving Energy Recovery Technology racecars, he's now a BBC F1 reporter.
So, getting Allan McNish to describe the new F1 technology, the new cars, and the new driving style
needed to go fast and win in 2014 makes this /ShakeDown with Leo Parente a must see.

And then we handicap the field to start figuring out which teams are on the rise and which will struggle -
Infiniti Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes AMG, McLaren, Lotus, Williams Caterham, et al. Plus, the drivers to watch -
Hamilton, Alonso, Kimi, Vettel, Magnussen, et al.

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[LewEngBridewell]

Loving these new engines. I've watched F1 throughout the V10 era, the V8 era, and now these V6 Turbos, and I have to say I love them.

Great noise, and the sight of those cars fighting to stay in a straight line through the corners is wonderful.

[Roth]

Loving these new engines. I've watched F1 throughout the V10 era, the V8 era, and now these V6 Turbos, and I have to say I love them.

Great noise, and the sight of those cars fighting to stay in a straight line through the corners is wonderful.

People love to bitch about change. Noses last year, engines this year, tyres most years. It all gets forgotten.

[LewEngBridewell]

Loving these new engines. I've watched F1 throughout the V10 era, the V8 era, and now these V6 Turbos, and I have to say I love them.

Great noise, and the sight of those cars fighting to stay in a straight line through the corners is wonderful.

People love to bitch about change. Noses last year, engines this year, tyres most years. It all gets forgotten.

I know, it's all just blah blah blah. If this qualifying is anything to go by, this year is set to be a cracker.

[stonemonkey]

It's weird, hearing the tyres squeeling now.

[RyRy]

It's weird, hearing the tyres squeeling now.

I LOVE being able to hear the lock ups it's rather cool

People love to bitch about change. Noses last year, engines this year, tyres most years. It all gets forgotten.

Yeah exactly, I personally love the new engines it means they have to prove their skill and it allows us to hear much much more.


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[RichieRooster]

I was hesitant about the engine sound. Particularly because everyone was talking about how different it would be. Once we got to Quali and saw multiple cars on track it became apparent that the sound isn't better, isn't worse, its just different. The engines are not squealing as loudly, but that isn't a bad thing because it means we can hear other elements of the car working. The tyres squealing was an interesting noise!
Remember, some people simply don't like change.

[gdh]

Our son and a group of his friends (mid '20s) came over once the bars closed at 2 am to watch the race. They loved the sound and new technology. These guys all have worked on their cars, a few legally race them and are all now big F1 fans. They were fasinated by the small turbo 6 and the hybrid system.

[LewEngBridewell]

It's weird, hearing the tyres squeeling now.

I love it

[What's Burning?]

ESPNF1 Australian Grand Prix organisers claim their contract may have been breached because the Formula One cars were not loud enough.

Andrew Westacott, Australian Grand Prix Corporation (AGPC) chief executive, said after the race that the rule changes had impacted on the "sexiness" of the event and as a result fans did not get what they paid for.

AGPC chairman Ron Walker has contacted Bernie Ecclestone and made it clear organisers are unhappy. He is likely to have found a sympathetic ear. Ecclestone has repeatedly made clear his unhappiness with many of the raft of rule changes.

"One aspect of it was just a little bit duller than it's ever been before and that's part of the mix and the chemistry that they're going to have to get right," Westacott said. "Ron spoke to [Ecclestone] after the race and said the fans don't like it in the venue.

"We pay for a product, we've got contracts in place, we are looking at those very, very seriously because we reckon there has probably been some breaches."

Westacott, who listed among his gripes the fact he did not need earplugs even in the pit lane, warned that European spectators were even more likely to be unhappy with the much quieter spectacle. "Previously, it shakes the bones," he said. "I'd be confident we'll have a different sound next year."

Hey guys, you know those hundreds of millions of dollars we just had you spend to develop the new PUs? Well they don't sound loud so we decided you're going back to V8's.

Or maybe Bernie is going to have to take out his special bribery check book ledger.

[Hammer278]

What lame-os. Dissapointed because of no need for earplugs.

[1Lemon]

ESPNF1 Australian Grand Prix organisers claim their contract may have been breached because the Formula One cars were not loud enough.

Andrew Westacott, Australian Grand Prix Corporation (AGPC) chief executive, said after the race that the rule changes had impacted on the "sexiness" of the event and as a result fans did not get what they paid for.

AGPC chairman Ron Walker has contacted Bernie Ecclestone and made it clear organisers are unhappy. He is likely to have found a sympathetic ear. Ecclestone has repeatedly made clear his unhappiness with many of the raft of rule changes.

"One aspect of it was just a little bit duller than it's ever been before and that's part of the mix and the chemistry that they're going to have to get right," Westacott said. "Ron spoke to [Ecclestone] after the race and said the fans don't like it in the venue.

"We pay for a product, we've got contracts in place, we are looking at those very, very seriously because we reckon there has probably been some breaches."

Westacott, who listed among his gripes the fact he did not need earplugs even in the pit lane, warned that European spectators were even more likely to be unhappy with the much quieter spectacle. "Previously, it shakes the bones," he said. "I'd be confident we'll have a different sound next year."

Hey guys, you know those hundreds of millions of dollars we just had you spend to develop the new PUs? Well they don't sound loud so we decided you're going back to V8's.

Or maybe Bernie is going to have to take out his special bribery check book ledger.

Breaking news: Ferrari are allowed to run V12s to offset the quieter noise of the Merc and Renault engines.

[What's Burning?]

(we had a bit of a hiccup and misplaced the previous turbo engine thread) while we figure out what to do with that, I had a couple of points for Spanky.

The fast lap this year was about 3.2 seconds slower than the fast lap last year. The big difference however was that fast lap here was set VERY early on... lap 19 if I remember correctly. Given all of the savings mode. Not just for fuel conservation but for reliability. So with that being said, there is quite a bit more headroom in these cars. I know you've been struggling with the speed and the conservation, but it's the very first year, first time out. Mark my words, in a couple of years we'll be equaling and then besting V8 times once again. It's what the sport always does. When that happens however, they'll be doing that with a considerable amount of knowledge gained and using 30% less fuel.

F1 has always been the pinnacle or racing, but it is also the pinnacle of racing engineering and as far as I'm concerned, I'm willing to suffer through the growing pains to gain that knowledge and engineering know how because it will ultimately make an impact in fuel efficiency for the industry as a whole.