FORUMula1.com

[LRW]

RC. You've had your responce from Mercedes. Pirelli still ominously quiet.

@leeroywicked @pirellisport @racechikee Unless we've gone colour blind, It was definitely super softs!

[CookinFlat6]

@spankyham
I dont see the transponder thing as Ferrari masking their lap times. I see the fastest straightline speed not correlating to the fastest lap times by any measure. I also see lots of trackside obervers claim the Ferrari is a bitch round the corners with Alonso and Kimi working a lot harder than the Merc boys so I reckon Ferrari has the performance but has not unlocked it or tuned the PU to deliver driveability and fuel efficiency in the corners.

I think it will come, maybe not the first race, but a car thats that fast can be setup by Alonso pretty soon. We heard Kimi is struggling to set it up as well. So I reckon its locked in Performance and not sandbagging

[spankyham]

@CookinFlat6
The top speed is not related to the transponder theory. They are separate. Top speed is measured at traps by other devices. The timing thing, if it were true, would be done using the official track mounted transponders that provide all teams with timing information. All teams use the official timing information, and that is what we watch on the timing apps, i.e. that give us sector times etc. But, there are actually many more of these transponders around all tracks and teams also get raw data from each one relating to their car. So a team could for their first lap use a transponder on T4 as their lap start, then time themselves back to that point, then back off for until the next transponder then start their "real" next lap there. But the official lap would include half a turn where the driver backs right off, while the teams real lap time would ignore that. The result would be the team sees the real lap time that would be faster than the official time recorded and that everyone else would see. Very convoluted, I don't see that much value really, but in theory it would work.

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk

[CookinFlat6]

I think the key to this year, apart from starting strong and reliable is to develop the effectiveness of the homolgated power unit and then the aero. with Alonso and a working wind tunnel they will be there at the end, if the Merc teams take points off each other. If Merc dominate though, it could be Ferrari coming second. Ferrari are ahead of where they normally are at season start, that should be reason to rejoice

[What's Burning?]

Except that you'd get somewhat skewed results since slowing down and then being up to speed by the next transponder has to have an effect on the total lap time regardless of where you begin timing.

[Hammer278]

I can't believe for a second that Ferrari will go through the trouble of doing all that when they can simply change their engine settings or add a few laps of fuel to throw off competitors. Seems like a lot of trouble as spanks mentioned.

[racechick]

RC. You've had your responce from Mercedes. Pirelli still ominously quiet.

@leeroywicked @pirellisport @racechikee Unless we've gone colour blind, It was definitely super softs!

I have indeed! And since they've responded, I'm gonna go with what they say. It was super softs,

What do you guys mean about me not figuring things out.

[What's Burning?]

He's an F1 fan and and internet legend.

[Jabberwocky]

Maybe Ferrari are just running a low down force configuration? Low drag, low down force, high top end, slow on corners

Sent using NCC-1701

[racechick]

Who is? Who is? Can only see a black hole,

[What's Burning?]

Maybe Ferrari ate just running a low down force configuration?

Are you saying Alonso had a second helping of pasta puttanesca?

[Jabberwocky]

Lol doh you noticed before the edit lol

Sent using NCC-1701

[CookinFlat6]

The result would be the team sees the real lap time that would be faster than the official time recorded and that everyone else would see. Very convoluted, I don't see that much value really, but in theory it would work.

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk

Ok, but in that case why not do this - Do the first sector as fast as you can, then back right off in the middle, then do the final sector as fast as you can then back off, then do the middle sector as fast as you can

or start your lap at the final sector carry on into the first and middle and wash out the last sector

Result on the timing boards you have 2 bad laps but on your own computers you have the true fast lap.
Much cheaper and easier to implement, ofcourse someone might notice but surely they gonna notice your speed in quali anyway?

[Jabberwocky]

I would imagine that teams crunch the data to have the theoretical best of each car from the official timings.

Sent using NCC-1701

[CookinFlat6]

Maybe Ferrari are just running a low down force configuration? Low drag, low down force, high top end, slow on corners

Sent using NCC-1701

If they are running a low DF setup then there must be a big reason. Either they are chewing tyres or drinking too much petrol with more DF. If they increase the DF enough to reduce the top speed to that of Merc then they must be losing something in the low and high speed corners that is even more than they would lose with the high speed low DF setup

It must be that they are not fuel efficient at the lower speeds