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By CookinFlat6
#393148
I hope they are practicing sitting on the grid waiting for the lights without catching fire. Because they wont even be starting if they haven't sorted that out yet, let alone worry about completing 60 laps. :hehe:
By Hammer278
#393159
Maybe Merc used the same gearbox since the start of this test? Anyway, now they know the critical load until failure. :D

Btw do Merc supply gearboxes to their customers as well? Or just the PUs?
By Hammer278
#393160
Don't know if this has been shared...


Red Bull: We’re missing 165 horsepower to the leading Mercedes, about 30km/h on the straights!


Crisis-struck world champions, Red Bull are hoping to merely survive the fast approaching Australian Grand Prix, the first race of the 2014 F1 World Championship season.

The reigning world champion team looked to have taken a step forward as the final pre-season test began on Thursday in Bahrain.

At the wheel of the troubled Renault-powered RB10, Daniel Ricciardo had a promising morning – until the latest technical problems left him stranded in the garage for most of the rest of the day.

Afterwards, the Australian was his usual upbeat self, ”From the outside, it looks like we are not doing many laps and that the times are not good.”

Daniel Ricciardo with Christian Horner and Helmut Marko
“But as a team we are confident that we will be with the frontrunners,” Ricciardo insisted.

“It is difficult to really predict what will happen, but we can say that we will not dominate in Melbourne as we did at the end of last season.”

Red Bull’s always-blunt Marko, however, sounded a less positive note, he told Sport Bild, “We have to somehow survive Melbourne.”

He said Renault’s troubled ‘power unit’ means that Red Bull is often missing 165 horse power to the leading Mercedes, “which is about 30km/h on the straights!

“That’s why we have sent a taskforce to France,” revealed Marko, referring to Renault’s Viry headquarters. ”Our people have just helped Renault write a new software programme.”


Screens around the Red Bull Racing garage in Bahrain
Renault says that it has made real progress, which is timely given the FIA’s looming engine development ‘freeze’ deadline of Friday.

“Yes, some problems we are yet to understand,” the French company’s Remi Taffin acknowledged in a recent interview.

“But over the past six years, approximately 95 per cent of the parts in the V8 engine were refined compared to the first version,” he said.

“We have made a big step forward between the first test and now with the new power unit. Yes we’re a little behind schedule, we still have certain problems, but they are gradually being resolved,” Taffin added. (GMM)
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By 1Lemon
#393161
I have doubts they are losing that much if their engine was turned up to 100%; that is such a ridiculous margin.
By LRW
#393162
The meeting of the strategy group has decided to make no changes to the engine homologation rules requested by Renault.

Aaah. Thats a shame.
By LRW
#393166
They've done about 18 laps. Where, from what I have read, it has been relatively cool in Bahrain this afternoon....

I would be getting the champagne out yet if I were RBR.
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By 1Lemon
#393169
I bet those vent's aren't even that bad for airflow.
By CookinFlat6
#393170
Red Bull have set reasonable times only because they have drilled illegal vents all over the place. The car they bring to Aus will have to be legal and the cooling working for more than a few laps before blowing

Good thing is that we now know Seb has a fast car so no excuses :hooli-popcorn:
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By bud
#393189
Maybe Merc used the same gearbox since the start of this test? Anyway, now they know the critical load until failure. :D

Btw do Merc supply gearboxes to their customers as well? Or just the PUs?


McLaren make their own, they also supplied to Force India but that deal was announced when McMerc were the same and one. When I went to MCTechno Centre the guys there said they took pride in seeing FI doing so well in Belgium 09. (Guess they had to take pride from somewhere at that point of that season :hehe:) Though this year I am not sure whether Force India have kept with McLaren or switched to Merc.
Williams have also made their own in the past and I assume they will continue to do so this season.

Red Bull have set reasonable times only because they have drilled illegal vents all over the place. The car they bring to Aus will have to be legal and the cooling working for more than a few laps before blowing

Good thing is that we now know Seb has a fast car so no excuses :hooli-popcorn:


As I have said previously, you can't have an illegal car in testing. Redbull obviously are gauging where they need to develop their packaging, seeing what works and what doesn't. So this "sticky tape fix" cooling is important for their next developmental step.
By CookinFlat6
#393190
The chances are the legal solution incorporating the vents will affect performance, otherwise they would have started with them
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By stonemonkey
#393191
I have doubts they are losing that much if their engine was turned up to 100%; that is such a ridiculous margin.


it says
that Red Bull is often missing 165 horse power to the leading Mercedes


Is it not due to them not being able to use the mgu-h all the time?
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