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[sagi58]

And then again when asked, some people feel the need to say plaid is their favorite color.

Not I!

Then you should be very accepting of diversity as opposed to going out of your way to point out the lack of colorful vision of others. If we let things be, then the self sustaining propagation would cease. After all, even seeing in black and white is still one more facet than seeing only "red" eh?

N'est–ce pas?

I am accepting of diversity; however, it would seem I didn't express myself clearly enough, if you're questioning that!
As I've already explained myself, in an earlier post, I don't think it's necessary to be repetitive.

Also, there is a world of difference between seeing the world as black and white and being a Tifosa. I readily admit
that I am a Ferrari fan and see things from that perspective. I can also admit that they are not perfect and that there
is room for improvement. However, I will be the first to defend them from insults and denigration.

Oui, c'est ça!! Eh!

[sagi58]

Personally I think it is impossible for anyone to only see 2 discrete sides to everything, however it is possible to see 2 discrete sides to somethings
To not see that possibility could be construed as only seeing in black and white
i.e. if you think some can only see in black and white you must by definition be guilty of seeing in black and white

You may be able to use that sort of psycho-babble to confuse some people into thinking you're right; but, yeah, it doesn't work on everyone. Especially since you just proved you yourself are "guilty" of seeing in black and white by declaring it's
""impossible"" (one extreme) for anyone to see ""only"" two polar opposites to ""everything"" (another extreme)!
Mind you, good recovery cushioning that ""extreme"" premise by turning this around that the shoe is on the other foot!!

By the way, seeing the world in terms of "black and white" refers to people who see things in extremes: good vs bad, right vs wrong, etc. If you're lucky enough not to have to deal with people with that mind set, then good for you; but, that's not to say they don't exist! To deny that possibility is to see the world in black and white!!

[sagi58]

...It was even stated that the black and white in Lewis' story is clear to his fans who dont only see in black and white...

Many of his fans suggested Hamilton left McLaren because he wanted to win more titles.
Granted. What F1 driver doesn't want to.

But, leaving not so long after declaring he wanted to retire at McLaren begs the question
"Why?"! Was winning more WDCs the "only" reason? Or was there a ""green"" reason?

 wrote:">Lewis Hamilton to join Mercedes in $100m move from McLaren, signing a three-year deal

[CookinFlat6]

He would have been paid more money by staying at McLaren

[CookinFlat6]

You may be able to use that sort of psycho-babble to confuse some people into thinking you're right; but, yeah, it doesn't work on everyone

Not every one is able to comprehend somethings

[Hammer278]

He would have been paid more money by staying at McLaren

And either way he'd be a paid employee, unlike his pay driver nemesis in Ferrari.

[CookinFlat6]

Particularly entertaining is how the hidden complex intelligent shades of grey reason turns out to be

more money

Here are a couple of phd students who are complex and hidden
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[What's Burning?]

I readily admit that I am a Ferrari fan and see things from that perspective. I can also admit that they are not perfect and that there is room for improvement. However, I will be the first to defend them from insults and denigration.

Oui, c'est ça!! Eh!

I readily admit that I am a Lewis Hamilton fan and see things from that perspective. I can also admit that he is not perfect and that there is room for improvement. However, I will be the first to defend him from insults and denigration.

Just changed a name and three pronouns, so I'm not sure why this argument is taking place or why you'd go out of your way to point out the black and white vision thing in a support thread?

[sagi58]

I didn't insult Hamilton, nor did I say anything derogatory.

When I asked what the reason was for Hamilton to leave McLaren,
all I got in response was "his real fans know the real reason".

To which I responded that not being one-dimensional, he'd probably
have had more than "one real" reason, because the world is not black
and white. And, that's how this whole thing got started.

Carry on!!

[CookinFlat6]

When making comments about drivers that come across as negative, its always a good idea to have a proper argument or case for doing so.
Did you research the pay deal he was offered at McLaren to stay before claiming his reason for leaving was money?
And you still want to ignore the reasons HE HIMSELF stated and put forward your own instead.
Just as well you are an unbiased F1 fan who can see things in shades, eh?

[Hammer278]

I didn't insult Hamilton, nor did I say anything derogatory.

When I asked what the reason was for Hamilton to leave McLaren,
all I got in response was "his real fans know the real reason".

To which I responded that not being one-dimensional, he'd probably
have had more than "one real" reason, because the world is not black
and white. And, that's how this whole thing got started.

Carry on!!

So the only thing left is that you're just trying to annoy Lewis fans then?

Check this out, you come into the support thread, say the fans are 1 dimensional and not thinking clearly, Lewis has hidden motives for switching teams (even after he clearly laid his reasons out MULTIPLE times during the transition), and then talk about how you're a Tifosi tifosa whatnot and you'll defend your team no matter what......HELLO MA'AM, this is a LEWIS SUPPORT THREAD. (capital letters for ENUNCIATION, not shouting) What're your motives in this thread exactly eh?

[sagi58]

So the only thing left is that you're just trying to annoy Lewis fans then?

That is completely paranoid, on your part!!
And, ridiculously offensive!!

[Hammer278]

Whoa..I'm trying to follow your logic in posting the things you post in this thread. Because I seriously don't see it and waiting for your reasoning.

*backs off slowly*

*slowly....


...*

[LRW]

[1Lemon]

It's not a Lewis support thread, it's a Lewis discussion thread. And at no point did I see Sagi insult Ham Fans, she asked why he left McLaren and was given a vauge response, she said his reasoning isn't black and white, because noone thinks only in black and white, and suddenly everyone is accusing her of calling Lewis simple or some such.

I'm also sure there were other reasons Lewis moved, yeah wanting more success and $£$ probably helped, but there were probably other reasons we will never know; it's unlikely he would want to say everything that would make him move to the world media and burn those bridges.