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By NHcheese
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Seb is finding it hard. Evn possible. I don't know. But if he is. probably get it fixed by mid season as always.
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By Jabberwocky
#389610
I agree with bud, the front wing sets the design of the rest of the car. For a team to change their front wing philosophy now would mean a major redesign from front to back.

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The front wing can be changed extensively without changing the front end philosophy. A team can go from 3 or 5 elements to 7. The struts and supports can be strengthened and changed without affecting the front concept.

Mercs front wing failure is not neccesarily a design flaw, just a change in its attribbutes to compensate for higher forces or loads. Also from pictures of the broken wing it seems more like the lamination than the support failed

I was actually on about, you could not just bolt a Caterham nose onto the Mercedes for example and the rest of the aero to be maximised by it.

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Seb is finding it hard. Evn possible. I don't know. But if he is. probably get it fixed by mid season as always.


Yes...Fixed...The word that can also associate with cheat :hehe:
By CookinFlat6
#389632
Well if Bernie is not around, RBR are gonna find it a bit harder 'cutting corners'

This year they might try but I doubt they will succeed in changing the race distance to 5 laps and limiting revs to 3k RPM :hehe:
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Speaking of Bernie, and I know this is kinda off-topic, but this is getting more controversial

Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone wants to extend his controversial double-points scheme to the last three races of the season.
The new format, which has been criticised by fans, teams and drivers, has been introduced for the final grand prix of the season in Abu Dhabi.
Now Ecclestone has written to the teams saying he wants to extend it to the two preceding races, in the USA and Brazil.
He needs unanimous approval for his proposal to go ahead.
A number of teams have reservations about it applying even to one race after the uproar it has caused.

Ecclestone's plan is designed to increase the chances of keeping alive the battle for the title until the final grand prix of the season, and thus maintain television audience figures. Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel has won two of the past three championships with at least three races remaining.
But Mercedes co-team boss Toto Wolff told a news conference this week that F1 needed to think carefully about whether it was a good idea.
Ferrari president Luca Di Montezemolo made the same point in last week's private meeting of the teams, Ecclestone and governing body the FIA, BBC Sport has learned.
However, Di Montezemolo is said to have accepted that double points being awarded for the final race in Abu Dhabi would happen this year on a trial basis.
Wolff said: "Was it the right move or not? Ninety-nine per cent of the fans say it is the wrong move, so perhaps it is something we have to revisit.
"Everything is possible. We had another meeting and decided to keep it for the moment. Discussions are ongoing."
But he did admit F1 needs to be open to ideas to prevent the championship being decided too early.
Wolff added: "If we see the same power situation with one team, it adds some spice. Obviously there is a lot to criticise but when you see audiences dropping, you need to try out things. This maybe wasn't the right thing but we need to find out."
Defending champion Vettel has called the plan "absurd", saying it penalises drivers who have done well over the entire season.


And Mercedes driver Nico Rosberg said this week: "I'm sorry to say, but it's no good.
"But if you get to the last race and, because of this new points system, it remains exciting, I'm sure all the spectators will be sitting in front of the TV and will be excited and happy about it.
"Now we're all sitting here saying it sucks but maybe by the last race it keeps things exciting."
One team boss, who did not wish to be identified, said F1 chiefs had "completely misjudged the predictable negative response from the public", adding: "Let's hope it is overturned."
Red Bull team principal Christian Horner told BBC Sport the plan had been approved because Ecclestone, whom he is close to, and the governing body "are very much in favour of it".
Horner added: "For Bernie, it's very easy - he wants to keep the championship alive and the TV ratings high and there's an opportunity. It's a lucky punch and I think it's too much emphasis on one race."
He did add, however, that "it would probably be better to look at three races to take away an element of lottery over that last race".
Ecclestone, 83, stepped down from the board of the company which runs F1 following his indictment on bribery charges in Germany earlier this month but continues to run the business on a day-to-day basis.
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By spankyham
#389635
A mate of mine (fellow Tifosi) pointed this one out to me. Given the problems Red Bull has had the first 2 days it seemed apt.

Red Bull cars "aReBeaTEN"
By Hammer278
#389647
Renault are claiming its 'an overnight fix' with the battery issue. So let's see how they get on today.
By CookinFlat6
#389652
Yeah, the battery issue could be overnight, but how about the crankshafts or the next issue on an unfinished project :rolleyes:
By Hammer278
#389655
They might want to just carve a crankshaft out of some wood and stick it in there...just to get some mileage in to make sure everything else can work for more than 10 laps.
By CookinFlat6
#389662
It should be an interesting day with a few questions answered;

Is the McLaren fast or is it the usual headling grabbing low fuel run traditional for cars looking for sponsors?
How fast will Mag be? Will he beat Buttons time today?, Surely the team will let him try on a similar setup
Have the Renault teams got a paddle to head back in the right direction for the season, or do they have to jump out and swim?
Merc were 4/5 positions in testing, apart from the timing, the total consecutive laps says they are in front on reliability, can we see the Ferrari teams all step up together on reliability?
Will Merc show more of their new toys and start pushing now reliability appears to be approaching other years?
By RyRy
#389663
Interesting how Ferrari have opted to send more airflow over the top of their car where as Mercedes seem to be diverting airflow towards their sidepods but actually it's going towards their diffuser which is pretty much non-existent...
By RyRy
#389665
I reckon Merc have a few toys waiting to be tested at some point


Why does the back of their car look so bare, yet all the airflow seems to be going around the sides of the car towards the diffusser, are they going to attach a diffuser? lol

EDIT: Didn't realise how HIGH the Force India nose appears... :O
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