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[CookinFlat6]

Why are you whinging about it then

[Hammer278]

Oh of course I always have an accurate percentage count of someone's charisma abs willingness...

Also there's no need to belittle someone and be sarcastic, sorry I don't have all the time in the world to read all media you post on here...

Comes across as being pretty thick if you don't bother clicking on a couple of links to see why a guy's saying what he's saying, and then opposing him when you haven't even understood his point yet.

To summarize, very 'andrew-like' it must be said.

[What's Burning?]

It may have garnered a different response were it to be Bo77as listed.

[1Lemon]

One for all....

I'm saying that all of these 'top 50 of x' lists are 50/50 factual to opinion, except for maybe top richest people. Which was a continuation on what you were saying earlier about backing opinion up with facts. They can't be taken as gospel.

[CookinFlat6]

Oh of course I always have an accurate percentage count of someone's charisma abs willingness...

Also there's no need to belittle someone and be sarcastic, sorry I don't have all the time in the world to read all media you post on here...

Comes across as being pretty thick if you don't bother clicking on a couple of links to see why a guy's saying what he's saying, and then opposing him when you haven't even understood his point yet.

To summarize, very 'andrew-like' it must be said.

There could not possibly be in existence a second primate as thick as Andrew

[CookinFlat6]

One for all....

I'm saying that all of these 'top 50 of x' lists are 50/50 factual to opinion, except for maybe top richest people. Which was a continuation on what you were saying earlier about backing opinion up with facts. They can't be taken as gospel.

Gospels cannot be taken as a Gospel as there are different versions by different people

The fact here is that 'according to the list accepted by media and industry' Lewis is considered top ten. Unless you have a better way of ranking them beyond your opinion, or have facts or proof then I think we are better of with the list I provided

[1Lemon]

so I'm an uneducated, underveloped ape because I didn't read the entirety of the article (I was working at the time BTW) and because I have different views from you? Great.

I'm leaving this thread now before it becomes yet another Hamilton circle jerk thread.

[CookinFlat6]

[operaman]

Spare me the BS, you simply don't know do you?

I dont know how many Lewis followers blah blah blah, twitter telemetry blah blah blah, relationship blah blah blah and neither do you. I do know though that he is a bigger global star in marketeability terms than Alonso and others

The World’s Ten Most Marketable Athletes 2013
1) Neymar – soccer, Brazil
2) Lionel Messi – soccer, Argentina
3) Rory McIlroy – golf, UK
4) Robert Griffin III – football, USA
5) Usain Bolt – athletics, Jamaica
6) Novak Djokovic – tennis, Serbia
7) Lewis Hamilton – motorsport, UK
Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer, Portugal
9) Sloane Stephens – tennis, USA
10) Blake Griffin – basketball, USA

http://www.sportspromedia.com/press_rel ... le_athlete

What do you have?

More blather from the BlatherKing. I asked a simple question to which you still have no answer, but you can go on and on about his marketability. Tell me which is more valuable to Mercedes, Lewis' marketability or Rosberg's win at Monaco. Personally I think Alonso brought something more tangible to Ferrari than marketability, he brought Santander.

[sagi58]

...it seems as if we're in agreement that an opinion without foundational basis can't be taken seriously. You know around these parts, we're allowed to our own opinions but we're certainly not allowed to our own facts.

Anything we do to prevent the four and five page arguments about who's opinion is more opinionated is good by me.

IF the opinion is subjective, there is no need to argue with facts.
Nor is there any need to turn every comment into a thesis/debate.
Who says we need to agree or that it's necessary to reach unanimous
on every topic/thread consensus?

You are wrong about what you said. I have no evidence or facts, I just think you are wrong and so I will keep objecting if you continue.

(See what I did there?)

Yup! You're being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative!
Have fun!

[sagi58]

So where is Vettel?

Apparently Vettel and Kimi don't "tweet"!

Here's the site I used: F1 Twitter directory

Does that mean they have no fans lol

Technically... Yup!!

[sagi58]

What good is a fact when countered with a strong opinion?

What good is an strong opinion when encountered with a fact?

[spankyham]

Spare me the BS, you simply don't know do you?

I dont know how many Lewis followers blah blah blah, twitter telemetry blah blah blah, relationship blah blah blah and neither do you. I do know though that he is a bigger global star in marketeability terms than Alonso and others

The World’s Ten Most Marketable Athletes 2013
1) Neymar – soccer, Brazil
2) Lionel Messi – soccer, Argentina
3) Rory McIlroy – golf, UK
4) Robert Griffin III – football, USA
5) Usain Bolt – athletics, Jamaica
6) Novak Djokovic – tennis, Serbia
7) Lewis Hamilton – motorsport, UK
Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer, Portugal
9) Sloane Stephens – tennis, USA
10) Blake Griffin – basketball, USA

http://www.sportspromedia.com/press_rel ... le_athlete

What do you have?

Interesting list. I judge its worth by this -> Virat Kohli and Alan Oliveira are more marketable than Tom Brady or Peyton Manning

[sagi58]

Spare me the BS, you simply don't know do you?

I dont know how many Lewis followers blah blah blah, twitter telemetry blah blah blah, relationship blah blah blah and neither do you. I do know though that he is a bigger global star in marketeability terms than Alonso and others

The World’s Ten Most Marketable Athletes 2013
1) Neymar – soccer, Brazil
2) Lionel Messi – soccer, Argentina
3) Rory McIlroy – golf, UK
4) Robert Griffin III – football, USA
5) Usain Bolt – athletics, Jamaica
6) Novak Djokovic – tennis, Serbia
7) Lewis Hamilton – motorsport, UK
Cristiano Ronaldo – soccer, Portugal
9) Sloane Stephens – tennis, USA
10) Blake Griffin – basketball, USA

http://www.sportspromedia.com/press_rel ... le_athlete

What do you have?

Another source of information that doesn't include any F1 driver (past or present):

Ten biggest sports earners in 2013
1. Tiger Woods (Golf) Total $78 million

Salary/winnings $13m / Endorsements $65m

2. Roger Federer (Tennis) Total $72m

Salary/winnings $7m / Endorsements $65m

3. Kobe Bryant (Basketball) Total $62m

Salary/winnings $28m / Endorsements $34m

4. LeBron James (Basketball) Total $60m

Salary/winnings $18m / Endorsements $42m

5. Drew Brees (NFL) Total $51m

Salary/winnings $40m / Endorsements $11m

6. Aaron Rodgers (NFL) Total $49m

Salary/winnings $43m / Endorsements $6m

7. Phil Mickelson (Golf) Total $49m

Salary/winnings $5m / Endorsements $44m

8. David Beckham (Football) Total $47m

Salary/winnings $5m / Endorsements $42m

9. Cristiano Ronaldo (Football) Total $44m

Salary/winnings $23m / Endorsements $21m

10. Lionel Messi (Football) Total $41m

Salary/winnings $20m / Endorsements $21m

[sagi58]

http://www.sportspromedia.com/press_rel ... le_athlete

What do you have?

Interesting list. I judge its worth by this -> Virat Kohli and Alan Oliveira are more marketable than Tom Brady or Peyton Manning

Just goes to show, statistics can be manipulated / influenced by a number of factors!
One being who is conducting the survey!!