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#38771
YEAH CAMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Massa dominates the Bahrain GP and Kimi is second. Ferrari 1 and 2, the best thing that can happen in a F1 race. Would be great if it can happen ALL THE TIME. And a bonus to this GREAT result is that LEWIS HAMILTON GOT ZERO POINTS, A WELL DESERVED ZERO POINTS. Now it is time to rejoice and celebrate the this anihalation and victorious moment for Ferrari to McLaren. YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FERRARI JE NAJBOLJE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Geez, can you gloat any more? DD
#38780
Um, look, I like Ferrari and dislike McLaren too, but jeez...


Same here. I grow tired of this. It's why I have more respect for fans of teams that aren't McLaren and Ferrari (in general, not all of them). I really hope BMW beat both of them in the WCC this year. They're a nice team, with nice fans.
#38781
Dont really think you can generalise about fans like that.
I am glad to see BMW truely in the mix though.
#38782
Um, look, I like Ferrari and dislike McLaren too, but jeez...


I agree, it is way way over the top :roll:


Well I am so happy that I am allowed to act like this. :lol:

Now it is time to get smashed and then watch the Palermo Vs Juventus Serie A football game in exactly 5 hours from now and by then I will very higly likely just fall asleep on the couch. (That is after the football match).

FORZA FERRARI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fratelli d'Italia,
l'Italia s'è desta,
dell'elmo di Scipio
s'è cinta la testa.
Dov'è la Vittoria?
Le porga la chioma,
che schiava di Roma
Iddio la creò.

Stringiamoci a coorte,
siam pronti alla morte.
Siam pronti alla morte,
l'Italia chiamò.
Stringiamoci a coorte,
siam pronti alla morte.
Siam pronti alla morte,
l'Italia chiamò!
#38785
Ferrari and BMW both gave McLaren a right kicking. McLaren were driven off the circuit. The Ferrari and BMWs seem a hell of a lot better at preserving the tyres, whereas the McLaren just eats them up, which is killing their race pace. The MP4-23 still has a lot of potential: it's got decent aerodynamics, handling, engine power and torque, and reliability. If the traction was improved, the car would be great. Ron Dennis said not to judge McLaren until after Barcelona. Well, that's three weeks away, so McLaren need to start to show some development pace, something that worries me to be honest with two inexperienced drivers.

Raikkonen must have done a disgraceful job in qualifying yesterday, but continued his Schumacher-esque qualities in making a good go of pipping people in the pits. Massa did a good job leading from the front, something he and any other average driver can do in good equipment. He's in the title mix again, yes, but I still don't rate him that highly as a driver.

Hamilton's start was an absolute disgrace, and Kovalainen (and others) did well to avoid him. On the other hand, Kovalainen made a good start. The first few laps of the race were pretty good, but it got pretty average after that.

Alonso is a w***er. Full stop. I have no doubts he brake-tested Hamilton coming out of that particular corner. There is never that difference in acceleration in Formula One cars. Although there's really no point in investigating insofar as Hamilton and Alonso got no points and will not be battling one another for the title, I feel it's important to know what really happened and seeing the 99%-sure guilty Alonso punished. In any case, it made Hamilton's race go from very bad to tragic, damaging parts of the car.

Questions have to be asked about Kovalainen. Why the hell was he so slow all race and, all of a sudden, started banging fastest sectors and personal bests in the closing stages of the race? Had he been doing that in the early stages of the race, he'd have been in the mix for at least a podium.

Coulthard: another accident similar to Melbourne. If it happens once, you give him the benefit of the doubt. Twice and you start to wonder. It's also not the first time he's been involved in stuff like this. I can remember a few accidents along these lines in his McLaren days. It's time he started using his mirrors and stops blaming others.

Sato show what an annoying little toad he can be. When blue flags are shown, you're meant to move out of the way and allow the other car to pass. You don't hold your line and barely give the guy enough room to pass. He deserves a good punch.

Williams have shown they have a good qualifying car, but in the race it's nowhere. It's like the old Toyotas and BMWs.

Trulli did very well today, and Honda did pretty well over the course of the weekend. I'm actually rather surprised.

Both BMW drivers did very well. Kubica kept the Grand Prix from looking completely like a two-horse race and Heidfeld did very well to move up the field.

Finally, ITV showed exactly why they do not deserve to cover Formula One. Where the hell was the post-race press conference. Basically, because Hamilton was not there, we don't get to see it. As a Formula One fan, I was looking forward to hearing what Massa and Kubica in particular had to say. Hamilton is only one of twenty-two drivers on show. :roll:
#38786
You cant say all BMW fans are "nice fans" unless you know them all! . I change teams with my drivers as a rule and supported BMW when they were with Williams and they ran Damon and then Juan Pablo. I followed Juan to McLaren and now support Lewis. So have i gone from being "nice" to nasty?
#38789
You cant say all BMW fans are "nice fans" unless you know them all! . I change teams with my drivers as a rule and supported BMW when they were with Williams and they ran Damon and then Juan Pablo. I followed Juan to McLaren and now support Lewis. So have i gone from being "nice" to nasty?

I don't see how you can just seemlessly shift from being a Williams to a McLaren fan; it's like suddenly changing your football team. I think what you mean is that you support a driver, and, via that, you want to see, say, McLaren do well because Hamilton is on the team. That's not really supporting the team; that's seeing them as a means to the success of your chosen driver.
#38790
Alonso is a w***er. Full stop. I have no doubts he brake-tested Hamilton coming out of that particular corner. There is never that difference in acceleration in Formula One cars. Although there's really no point in investigating insofar as Hamilton and Alonso got no points and will not be battling one another for the title, I feel it's important to know what really happened and seeing the 99%-sure guilty Alonso punished. In any case, it made Hamilton's race go from very bad to tragic, damaging parts of the car.


If it had been the front or side of the car, I'd agree that it would be a plausible tactic. But it was the rear. Alonso's car would have been at a far greater risk than Hamilton's, since damage to the rear leads to retirement far more often than the front. I've watched the replay a few times and it just looks like Hamilton got a better drive out of the corner than Alonso. I'd like to see an onboard view from Alonso's car to make a proper decision, but I highly doubt that this one was intentional.

Questions have to be asked about Kovalainen. Why the hell was he so slow all race and, all of a sudden, started banging fastest sectors and personal bests in the closing stages of the race? Had he been doing that in the early stages of the race, he'd have been in the mix for at least a podium.


Tyre choices. Two stints on options followed by a better stint on primes. You yourself said the McLaren eats tyres more than the Ferrari and BMW.

Sato show what an annoying little toad he can be. When blue flags are shown, you're meant to move out of the way and allow the other car to pass. You don't hold your line and barely give the guy enough room to pass. He deserves a good punch.


Incorrect. You're supposed to let someone pass, but there is nothing that states you have to come off the racing line. You simply need to keep to a line and be predictable, allowing the other driver to pass you.

You cant say all BMW fans are "nice fans" unless you know them all! . I change teams with my drivers as a rule and supported BMW when they were with Williams and they ran Damon and then Juan Pablo. I followed Juan to McLaren and now support Lewis. So have i gone from being "nice" to nasty?


McLaren and Ferrari fans are constantly hurling abuse at each other. I don't remember EVER seeing a BMW fan do that. And I'm not saying all, in any case. In general, that's how it is.
#38796
BMW fans had no one to abuse for some time now...maybe that's why you don't see any abuse...they just came out as a competitve team that fights for the top..wait for it it's coming..(the abuse, not the top)

Is that a probability maybe?


Yep. But for now, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. If this level of performance continues and they get a couple of wins, we'll see. :)
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